Tech IndustryApr 21, 2022
Newcode2705

Argo AI offer Evaluation

Recently got an offer from Argo AI for a Software Engineer 2 (L4) with the mapping team in the Bay Area. The recruiter said that the team had great feedback and I could have been L5, but they are adamant on L4. Initial Offer: Base: 175k Annual Bonus: 15% Equity: 400k / 4yrs (based on a projected 20B valuation, however current valuation is 12.5B) TC: ~300K Current TC 200K. How much and what all can I negotiate on? Also, any opinions on WLB with the mapping team? #tech #bayarea #argoai #evaluation #mapping team

Thermo Fisher bbrbro1 Apr 21, 2022

I think you took the job I was interviewing for :/

Argo AI ghjkliop Apr 22, 2022

Negotiate. 190k-200k base is possible and ask for 30k joining bonus too. Many at L4 got that deal

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code2705 OP Apr 25, 2022

Do you know the max tc they offer if I have competing offers for other AV companies ? Do they match the offers ?

Argo AI gr6ghj Apr 24, 2022

Mapping team WLB is good

Waymo RPWE37 Apr 25, 2022

what are the other offers?

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code2705 OP May 4, 2022

Nvidia, Nuro, Lucid!

Argo AI liposuct Apr 30, 2022

The equity is currently priced at about $50/share but this does not account for the recent market correction/50%+ drop in AV stocks. You need to compare the equity grant at around $25/share with other companies.

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code2705 OP Apr 30, 2022

Mind if I dm you ?

Argo AI liposuct Apr 30, 2022

I don't mind at all. I'll try to help.

Argo AI liposuct Apr 30, 2022

My advice: ask for the fair market price and current valuation it is based off to the recruiter. They may say 12.4B which was true at one point but is certainly not today. If the shares are roughly $50 at 12.4B valuation each per the recruiter and you get 10,000 shares, it would have been a $500k grant before AV stocks went down by 50% but it's $250k now, not whatever the recruiter says it's worth at 20B. Look at other AV stocks. If you can't get true current valuation, ask when the valuation used for setting the price of the shares was last determined. The recruiter might try to avoid answering these questions directly but do not stop asking until you have an answer.

Argo AI rustyav Apr 30, 2022

The fair market price is tied to the last 409A. Argo isn’t going to make up some valuation based on the public market.

Argo AI liposuct May 1, 2022

Ok, but what a new hire gets today must somehow be tied to current reality. The point is to get a realistic CURRENT estimate of the equity grant. If you think Argo is currently worth 8b, ask what the shares are worth at that.

Argo AI VOIY60 Apr 30, 2022

What is the number of units for 400k, did you ask the recruiter