Argo AI stock grant caveats

I currently have an offer from Argo for a SWE II position and I find the stock grant size abnormally large, even discounting down the valuation from $20B to $12.7B. What are some median/large grants Argo gives out, and what’s the catch here? Current TC 250 Edit: 4YOE Edit 2: 195 base, 15% target bonus 40k sign on $900k RSUs @20B

Microsoft Tc.Slut! Nov 9, 2021

How large is the give out?

Amazon coyotewile OP Nov 11, 2021

Edited with offer

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PgwU76 Nov 9, 2021

Either way congrats dude lol

Argo AI argowhat Nov 9, 2021

You’ve gotta post your offer for us to help you evaluate

Amazon coyotewile OP Nov 11, 2021

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Argo AI argowhat Nov 11, 2021

Sounds about right if you are in the autonomy team. a little high for other sw teams.. but congrats!

Argo AI babarAzam Nov 11, 2021

Post the offer. We will tell you if the grant is large or not. Also, you are doing the right thing of discounting it by 40% or so since the current valuation is 12.4B and not 20B yet.

Amazon coyotewile OP Nov 11, 2021

Edited with offer

Argo AI babarAzam Nov 11, 2021

Good offer! congrats. It is not abnormal. As discussed $900k is more like $600k (after discounting ~35%) with current valuation of $12.4B. So, your estimated target TC: 195k (base) + 30k (annual bonus) + 150k (stock component) = $375k/year (excluding joining bonus).

Argo AI napon3 Nov 11, 2021

Depends on how many shares you are granted.

Amazon coyotewile OP Nov 12, 2021

8200 shares

Argo AI napon3 Nov 12, 2021

That’s a great offer IMO. Might be even an exceptional for the level.

Argo AI Viego Nov 12, 2021

level/title?

Amazon coyotewile OP Nov 12, 2021

SWE2

Argo AI argonauts Nov 14, 2021

Wow. Definitely top of band offer. Your base is more than mine at Senior SWE

Argo AI TimCosmic Nov 16, 2021

Agree. Exceptional offer

Argo AI argoing Nov 22, 2021

You are getting screwed especially if you are getting good reviews or are in PAO.

Argo AI arko Nov 18, 2021

Exceptional package for Sde2

Argo AI mvfth Nov 20, 2021

The is about the same as a low end senior offer. Guess you did great in the interview.

Amazon coyotewile OP Nov 21, 2021

Honestly I thought I did just OK. Was pretty worried I wouldn’t get an offer at all…

Argo AI argoing Nov 22, 2021

This isn't atypical to what they used to give out years ago. They must be getting aggressive in offers again. The catch here is that 4 years in the self driving business is very exhausting to get all that equity. 4 year retention is not high.

Amazon coyotewile OP Nov 22, 2021

That’s a good point. I ended up taking the Argo offer since I figured I’m still young and now is the time to take risks.

Argo AI mvfth Nov 22, 2021

Not much risk actually. If the company won't have a successful IPO next year, you can decide to leave at that time.