HI! Anyone here works for Atlassian Confluence Cloud team in MTV? Can they give an insight into what to expect with regards to people, work, tech and anything else that might be relevant to know before taking an offer? Even if you don't work for Confluence, do you have any details about the Confluence disco team or similar backend teams there?
I hear great things about the Confluence team
Where do you hear from and what do you hear ? :)
I thought their bar was quite low. There’s a single coding round and a lot of subpar engineers slip through the cracks. Their infrastructure is complete crap btw.
@op, did you get offer from them?
yes, hear great things about WLB. wondering if it is worth it?
That depends. Great WLB, great social culture, kind of slow technical culture and trailing edge technology at least in the marquee products. The cloud platform is better tech but it's going to be a while before Confluence is leveraging it. I love Atlassian. I like working on Confluence but for someone young and ambitious there are much better teams in MTV. For someone with less to prove or who can be patient around a really old code base Confluence has opportunities and its a revenue product
I'm on Confluence back end but not Disco, what would you like to know?
Oh Nice! Can you tell me your experience ( as much as you can without revealing too much ) ? Nature of work, management, do you have any complaints? Is this a company that will help me learn/grow ? How much pressure is there? Do people get laid off often etc when you say "old code base" how old is it? Is it spagetti code? What are the better teams in MTV?
Not spaghetti except maybe in the inter-relationship between plugins but Confluence dates 2003 and there's a lot of OSGi and Struts still in the guts of the thing and in admin pages... the front end is an SPA done specifically for the cloud product and a lot better. We're forked from the server product about 3 years ago and it's really only after that the Cloud product has started evolving on its own. We're doing a lot more microservices now, but it's still mostly in the monolith. My main complaint is that we've generally been very biased to product focus and have under invested in infrastructure and tech, the ops side runs a lot better on newer teams. The code base also makes things slow - where the microservice folks have sub 1 minute builds and 5 minute tests we're at like 5 minute build locally and 45 minutes to get feedback from CI. The company has a lot of resources to learn and grow; how supported you will be depends a lot on the individual manager. Have seen only two people managed out in my time here and one was like an immediate bad fit (not his fault just really I think underestimated how much there was to learn in an old Java codebase coming from a C++/C# background) and the other was an oldtimer who got put on pip and rage quit the same day. Pressure can be high before deadlines but for the most part this is one of the more chill places I've worked. Management varies a lot, Confluence head turned over this year, the new head (Ali) is really smart and at least so far doesn't seem to be pushing hard on the culture, mostly that's a good thing although I'd love to see more pushback from dev to product. Some process can feel a little heavy but it's not bad. As for better teams, just depends on what you want. Access is a new build revenue product, mixed node and Java and moves a lot faster, might be a better place for an ambitious youngster. There's a good chunk of Identity, Search, Micros and Platform here, not sure who is hiring. All are going to be on a more modern tech base, but they are downstream infra teams not product.
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