I'm learning more about Atlassian and their design org and really like the seemingly down to earth folks they employ. Anyone work in the Sydney, Australia office that can give me the real skinny?
lol, have you used any of their products ?
yep.
LOL
our legacy designs need updates, but the people generally know what they are doing and are nice people. True for most of the company (not just design). That said, we grew fast the past few years and now have a lot of empowered people with no context/history to make good judgements on. You'll be one of those if you join. :) Newbies generally are super happy at the company, and contentment decreases with tenure.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I appreciate it. Discontentment can happen for a variety of reasons. If you had to take pin down one or two reasons why, in your opinion, this happens, what would they be? Is it hard to make good progress and change happen in the legacy tools themselves (code base)? No appetite for change from leadership?
The codebase is...fine. I think change is happening, might just not be publicly visible. Discontentment (personally) comes from having had the perfect place to work, and then watching process and bureaucracy take over as we scale. OKRs that don't matter, meetings you don't need, etc. we are sorely lacking in team leads which kinda means we need more process and it's a vicious cycle. Things still get done, it's just a little less satisfying to be told to determine a metric (over many meetings) and chase a dumb number than to build things you actually enjoy using and believe are useful. (that's still happening, just not as fun with all the process crud in the mix.)
lol atlassian 😭
We used to. But somehow we've lost the spark now. Our vital signs survey results are going down significantly and we struggle to hire managers who make any impact. If it wasn't for JIRAs traction we'd be half the size we are now.
Not a designer, but the design org seems very powerful. The design team do a lot of research and customer/user testing and feedback classification to work out the best way forward for all our products. It's hard to strike a balance between what we're known for (configurability, extensibility) and what we need to do (simplify, modernize), but I believe in our design team and what they do - at least on a product level. Maybe not so much on a platform level.
Whoever is working on Confluence needs a talking-to
I guess you don't like the new UI update. It's coming to all the products, not Confluence's fault.
Heard their mobile lead designer has very low skills. It may be frustrating to report to someone who does not have your qualifications.
I don’t even know who our mobile lead designer is. But I certainly don’t like our head of mobile after my limited interactions with the guy
Personally I think it’s an exciting time to design at Atlassian but you have to put up with a lot of negative external signals (see this thread for examples) and it’s still (like most places) an engineering-dominated culture. With that said, though, the design culture is good and the work is more fun now than it has been since I started there years ago. Good opportunities for research and a lot of the low-level decisions already figured out with their design system and front-end components.
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Lol, design? have you ever used hipchat?
No one does all design perfectly. Ever tried searching for stuff on Slack? Searching back in time is frustrating and almost always leads to dead ends. But for chat, it's great.