Facebook has overtaken Amazon

Aug 21, 2018 188 Comments

Yes. Facebook has the taken the crown from Amazon for:
1) Crap WLB
2) Incompetent management
3) cut throat
4) abnormal Stress level

All of these happened in a year or so as we had 40% new hires. Avoid FB seriously unless you only care about money.

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  • Microsoft / Product
    Kemw

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    Kemw
    Most people think they can deal with the bullshit for the big bucks, until they’ve done it and then they realize money isn’t everything.
    Aug 21, 2018 5
  • Lyft
    Gxof74

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    Gxof74
    Is this based on your personal experience? Or general sentiment across?
    Aug 21, 2018 9
  • Facebook
    FlyingPigg

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    FlyingPigg
    I can confirm the symptoms Op described by own experience, and these were brought up in Facebook lounge as well. Unless you want to get fired, you have to keep up with these shit.

    The only things that are of worth in Facebook are perks & pay. The large amount of kool aids they fed me on day 1 orientation were completely gone within 6 months. I still remembered how everyone was so excited and passionate during orientation, but those feelings got killed slowly as the negative job experiences kicked in. Reality bites and the only time I’ve enjoyed the most working here is during boot camp.

    I used to be excited to join Zuck’s weekly town hall but now I don’t bother like the others who were here long enough. Because there’s a serious gap between the reality Zuck lives in vs his employees. My ears are shut now, and I don’t have much hope for this workplace.

    The only things of value to me in Facebook are just the pay and the name on resume. There’s not much job satisfaction whatsoever. And to me, that’s not worth it.

    Like everywhere else, there’re some good people in Facebook, but there’re some really nasty ones. My experience had been 30% good people and 70% nasty people. I worked with mostly managers, senior leadership and execs. And these symptoms were absolutely caused by the people at those levels. I’d characterize them as having unrealistic expectations due to lack of experience, in house fighting of territories, egoistic and always judgemental towards the bottom with complete lack of empathy and forgiveness, endless and pointless reviews that are useless, complete lack of leadership and ownership (why? the bottom owns everything, we’re empowering them. we should be served while we sit our asses doing absolutely nothing), lots of shady politics since there’s completely lack of framework and structure (oh, we’re unlike other companies where we go to a cave to craft our vision. Instead, we do nothing and let the people at the bottom go figure out and we be the judge. Since during hiring we look for people being able to structure and come up with framework), too rich to care (frequent vacations to luxurious places and be care free), and negligence to people’s feelings and situations (this includes sending emails during midnight, we hire the best and we expect you to be at your best all the time).

    I can completely relate the CA incident to the management culture here and nothing will fundamentally change unless this company tears apart those stupid posters on “move fast” and “focus on impact”, and change how performance management is done.

    Some of you may ask if people at those levels are having better times and the answer is no. They do these to each other as well unless you’re in their cult.

    I don’t understand why people would enjoy such self-torture, they’re just numb already to not notice them.

    I work in infra and am with engineering if you’re curious. And I work closely with 3 VPs, 7 directors, 10 managers, and > 15 engineers across infra and products. Go figure. You may be lucky and keen if you can fall under the 30% good people I know of.
    Aug 22, 2018 10
    • Facebook
      FlyingPigg

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      FlyingPigg
      PizzaHut, I’m simply following the footsteps of Brian and previous execs, who had walked away with large sum of $$$ and trashing Facebook. Except I don’t have that much $$$ 😂

      I never understood how someone can do that. Maybe Facebook should pay me more to up level my criticism 😂
      Aug 23, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Ncajfhaohz

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      Ncajfhaohz
      Same here. Working the same or more than people at FB with zero perks and 80% of the pay in a similarly expensive area (not Seattle). No respect and everyone on the outside thinks I’m dumb because I’m an Amazon L4
      Aug 24, 2018
  • IBM
    zmachine

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    zmachine
    How incompetent is the management ? Any vague examples?
    Aug 21, 2018 7
  • Just when I am ready to interview for a FB role suddenly it becomes a shitty place to work lol
    Aug 21, 2018 3