Bellevue vs. Moutainview

Sep 11, 2019 74 Comments

MS SDE 63 170k base 300K stocks 100k sign on at Bellevue
Vs.
Google L4 165k base 275k stocks 50k sign on Mountainview

G is known to give out higher refreshes. G has the brand name.
Which one would you choose?

TC: 160 base + unknown amount paper money

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  • No state tax in WA
    Sep 11, 2019 0
  • Microsoft oprota
    Bellevue vs Mountainview - Bellevue
    Google vs Microsoft - Google
    Sep 11, 2019 6
    • Spotify dogfoodr
      OP
      Gotcha.
      Btw what is SLU in your previous comment?
      Sep 12, 2019
    • South Lake Union. The neighborhood in downtown Seattle where Google is building their new offices
      Sep 12, 2019
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    • Spotify dogfoodr
      OP
      Appreciate your perspective.
      Sep 11, 2019
    • Nielsen nqED75
      MSFT already has higher market cap than GOOG, which makes no sense to me (compare growth opportunities; MSFT is just the new IBM). What rationale for MSFT stock appreciation?
      Sep 12, 2019
  • Microsoft / Eng
    recession

    Microsoft Eng

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    recessionmore
    Microsoft. Jump to Google later
    Sep 11, 2019 2
    • Spotify dogfoodr
      OP
      Can't I do Google first?
      Sep 11, 2019
    • Amazon bMrd67
      No, you'll want to do google long term not msft.
      Sep 12, 2019
  • Snapchat jOLb15
    Create a poll
    Sep 11, 2019 2
    • Spotify dogfoodr
      OP
      Good point. Didnt know how to create one.
      Sep 11, 2019
    • Spotify / Eng bubbedty
      Lol
      Sep 12, 2019
  • Cisco dEwb04
    MS for sure. No brainer.
    Sep 11, 2019 4
    • Verizon Media sxSG85
      The perks and “other” amenities do add up. I practically spend 0 money on food since I joined a Bay Area bigwig. My commute is free because my company pays for carpool.
      I don’t spend money at the gym or classes anymore.
      So yeah these things do matter if you proactively use then. I easily save ~ 1000 bucks a month and my 401k is the Cadillac of all 401ks.
      YMMV but if you use up these things, they really great.
      State tax sure. That’s something OP can consider if it makes a dent for him/her
      Sep 13, 2019
    • Spotify dogfoodr
      OP
      Verizon, are you in G now?
      Sep 13, 2019
  • TrueCar / Eng lolcar
    270K vs. ~247K. 270K gets 10% more off the bat and lower COL. MSFT from a financial perspective. Rest depends on team and career.
    Sep 11, 2019 0
  • New / Legal ⌐(ಠ۾ಠ)¬
    MS it's all about the TC
    Sep 11, 2019 0
  • Google
    GoogleSoft

    Google

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    GoogleSoftmore
    Tell Google that you have competing offer. I think they will match
    Sep 11, 2019 9
    • Google / Eng sadnoogler
      Too low..., I am still sad about it .
      Sep 13, 2019
    • Apple vnqoza
      How low?
      Sep 13, 2019
  • Tableau Kaczynski
    In terms of location and TC I’d say MS wins handily. Having worked at MS (but not Google) it can be political and unless you have a solid management chain promotions can be slow. Everything I see about Google says it’s similar there nowadays. I definitely say Google has more prestige though MS is not a bad name to have on your resume. All other things being equal I’d do Google but I could never live in Mountain View and the COL means the MS offer is a quite a bit better than it seems as a straight number comparison. All that said, I’d say it’s a toss up and would go with what team you liked better and where you’d prefer to live.
    Sep 11, 2019 2
    • Spotify dogfoodr
      OP
      How slow would you say from 63 to 64? Like 2 years if i work hard?
      Sep 11, 2019
    • Tableau Kaczynski
      Very doable but it comes down to your manager and skip level. Some people languish forever and others move quickly.
      Sep 11, 2019

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