Apple Data Scientist Offer Evaluation

Snow Joe + Sun Joe / Data
tVOz62

Snow Joe + Sun Joe Data

tVOz62
Jun 16, 2021 10 Comments

Got a first verbal offer for an Apple Data Scientist in Cupertino

TC:226.5K

Base: 160k
RSU:210k
Bonus: they said 7-10% of base is typical so ~14k?
Level: ICT3

40K sign on bonus

Current TC 85k based in DC
YOE: 4.5 as a Data Scientist + 2 as a SWE

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  • Cisco
    10:01

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    10:01
    What’s DS?
    Jun 16, 2021 2
    • Snow Joe + Sun Joe / Data
      tVOz62

      Snow Joe + Sun Joe Data

      tVOz62
      OP
      Data scientist
      Jun 16, 2021
    • Snow Joe + Sun Joe / Data
      tVOz62

      Snow Joe + Sun Joe Data

      tVOz62
      OP
      Edited in case others have the same question
      Jun 16, 2021
  • Cummins
    SamHarris

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    SamHarris
    Unless the recruiter says this is the final offer, you always have room to negotiate. If you think you deserve $250K, say $270 and they will unknowingly match your expectations. Now this is true only if you were the first choice.

    Also, it is irrelevant whether this is a good offer or not. Your new TC is 2.7x of your current. Apple brand will allow you to switch much easier later if you feel underpaid for your output.
    Jun 17, 2021 1
    • Snow Joe + Sun Joe / Data
      tVOz62

      Snow Joe + Sun Joe Data

      tVOz62
      OP
      So before I respond I wanted to just say thanks for the reply.

      Part of the issue with the TC comparison is that there’s a lot not often captured in TC. I’m limited in terms of what details I’m comfortable sharing here but that’s one piece of it.

      As a secondary, I currently have other offers that have better base + equity at pretty valuable startups that also will let me work full remote. Considering cost of living adjustments, a company that has a tiny fraction of apples ability to pay people is willing to offer me more compensation than apple is at the moment. Given that it feels like a step backwards to have an offer at a lower level than I’ve been working.
      Jun 17, 2021
  • For 6.5 yoe this is a low offer from Apple. In NYC the same type of role even at far lesser companies than Apple would have around $200k base and closer to $75k / year in equity from the original grant value. A 10% annual bonus is kind of useless in these situations, it might as well just be higher base or factored into equity. Is there any sign-on bonus as well? Overall I don’t think this is competitive for your yoe.
    Jun 16, 2021 2
    • Snow Joe + Sun Joe / Data
      tVOz62

      Snow Joe + Sun Joe Data

      tVOz62
      OP
      They offered me a 40K sign on. This is also their first offer so I assume there’s room to negotiate. I think the big thing is that they leveled me at ICT3 as opposed to 4 despite having the experience that I do
      Jun 16, 2021
    • Snow Joe + Sun Joe / Data
      tVOz62

      Snow Joe + Sun Joe Data

      tVOz62
      OP
      Any recs on how you’d recommend I negotiate? I imagine it’ll be hard to get them to put me at a level 4
      Jun 16, 2021
  • Can I ping you on what to expect in interview?
    Jun 16, 2021 1
    • Snow Joe + Sun Joe / Data
      tVOz62

      Snow Joe + Sun Joe Data

      tVOz62
      OP
      Sure but I doubt I’ll be able to help much
      Jun 16, 2021