Business Tech Analyst at Deloitte
Is it a good place for CS majors or entry-level programmers to go into if they want to get into management eventually? Got invited for interview for this role at Deloitte. How is the TC for this role or similar roles with Deloitte or other Big 4? Any views on insight would be appreciated as I do not have much knowledge about these roles or these consulting companies.
I'd steer clear of entry level positions at consulting firms... Sweatshops
Is pay low? Or do they make you work like crazy?
Business tech analyst roles are dead ends, definitely not good places for CS grads
I started my career as a BTA at deloitte so i can speak to it. Your pay will be around 74K. Work load varoes between projects but yes can go upto 10 hours a day. I see 0 issue with that because i feel i learned 15 years worth of stuff in 5 years easily. The amount of variation on projects, clients, industries, type of work, technology you will experience is amazing. It prepares you really well for late stage of your career. The exposure to C suite folks, soft skills, ability to pick up new things in short time are all invaluable things i learned that now give me a massive edge over ithers in my industry job late in my career. At the start of your career focus on learning and building skills, in my opinion total comp is secondary. The only reason i would discourage you from it is if you do not lime traveling. It can be really brutal for folks to fly every single week and live in hotels. And is it a good ace for programmers? Nope, not if you want to code all your life. They mostly work on large packaged solutions and technologies. There is some amount of custom development but nothing to keep your skills sharp over a FANG company. If you want to get unto into management however, absolutely. It will make you fantastic and being able to tackle any problem that can come your way brcause of the diversity of problems you face at multiple clients and industries.
Few questions: 1) This may be stupid but BTAs are consultants or is this entry-level job the the precursor to consultants? If I join today, how soon can I be expected to start traveling to customer sites? 2) 74k in Bay Area?? Thats seems really low for the area. Is that base or TC? 3) How is career and salary progression over years? Someone mentioned this role can be a dead-end for CS majors and I have heard as well that unless you shoot for partner position, which requires insane workaholism, you hit the ceiling pretty quickly. 4) What kind of technology did you use as BTA?
First off Documon is pretty accurate here. Responding to ur questions 1. All levels consult when you’re in that branch, that’s our role. BTA is the entry level and Consultant is 2 years in, Senior Consultant is 2 on top of that typically etc. you might be traveling with you’re very first gig. I was out of the Costa Mesa office and 3 weeks in got staffed in Santa Barbara expected to be there every week. 2. I think they recently pushed it up a bit from 74k but there’s no bonus for BTAs. For Consultants you’re eligible for bonus the first year you complete as analyst and that’s usually 9-12%. 74 may seem low for expensive cities but every year I’ve gotten 6-9k base increase which has not been my friends experience in industry (except my buddy in oil). Glassdoor is fairly accurate on comp for each level though I think it understates Manager and SM total comp. 3. 6-9k / year base increase depending on personal performance, firm performance, and if there’s promo maybe another 3-5k. Bonus start at like 10% for Consultant and I’ve seen 30% for Managers. 4. I think CS if you are wanting to be a coder, we’re great experience through Senior Consultant level. After that, to be successful AND make it worth the headache, you have to start being involved in other crap that CS people don’t typically enjoy and I think Deloitte’s value prop diminishes for CS people after about 5 years experience - you can use the great experience though to land a solid job at big tech companies.
BTA roles vary ALOT. But generally you will not use or grow CS skills. At all. You'll mostly live in meetings, outlook and PowerPoint
Been there. Couple pointers: 1. You don’t learn any real skills. 2. Earn less money. 3. Lots of politics and shitty ratings 4. To get good ratings, you need to slog a lot and end up with no social life If you have a chance at a better role. Take it. Learn some useful skills and then move into a management role as you grow up your ladder Nobody likes a manager who doesn’t know how anything works.
Tech roles are good in Deloitte. They have Deloitte innovation where I have seen lots of developers doing amazing work.
Hey, I recently joined at PwC as a programmer. It really really really depends on the team, but generally speaking consulting firms aren't doing great in tech, however they fill a large gap in industry with their solutions. Your experience there will vary according to your manager and teammates. In Big 4, in tech, in most cases, as you're growing you are expected to do more sales rather than coding. Definitely consider joining, but before joining a team make sure you understamd what your role will be on a daily basis. Many times people there will use buzzwords such as machine learning, drones etc without really underatanding the technical aspects of that. Feel free to send me a pm if you need more info, and good luck :)
Define "management"
Good question. I meant managing people and teams as opposed to products and projects