postmortems affect perf/promo at google?

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Mar 15, 2020 10 Comments

heard google has blameless postmortems.

in practice, are they truely blameless? do they affect perf? do any promo/perf committee members look at the postmortems negatively?

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  • Google
    fchtc

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    fchtc
    If your code change cause severe outage and impact goes out to director level, then yes. otherwise no. Outage is part of engineers daily life.

    BTW, postmortem is usually writen by the oncaller even if you made the bad change. So your statement is kinda misleading.
    Mar 15, 2020 3
  • Amazon
    fjr37a

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    fjr37a
    Yeah amazon has these. But everyone who says they are not a punishment is full of shit
    Mar 15, 2020 0
  • Facebook / Eng
    ๐ŸฒโŒš๏ธ

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    ๐ŸฒโŒš๏ธ
    Are you causing SEV because your an idiot and you have no idea what youโ€™re doing. Or because youโ€™re touching mission critical infra and stepping on tech debt?

    Depends on the specifics. Use your judgement.
    Mar 15, 2020 0
  • Apple
    ICT6

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    ICT6
    Outages are unavoidable but what matters is how you learn and adapt. If you keep having outage after an outage someone will be on the hook and will have to find a job elsewhere. This is not just google but any company which is making money and wants to stay in business.
    Mar 16, 2020 0
  • Google
    lenajava

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    lenajava
    Not good for promo for sure:( I inhered a project as Leads decided to switch. They actually received a promo for that launch. Then I realized they were not experienced and built it really bad. 20 postmortems and I was going for promo. Manager told me it was not a right time. After I fixed and stabilized everything it was a different story.
    Mar 15, 2020 0