Californication?

Terminus / IT HankBank
Aug 26, 2019 50 Comments

So I jist visited California for the 1st time. San Francisco to be exact...and I absolutely LOVE the place. The water...the mountains...the buildings...and most importantly the tech job market.

So this question is for those of you that work/have worked in california can you provide insight on

1. How much would I need to live comfortably in LA/Sunnyvale/SF/ or any other nice tech centric CA areas.

2. What can I expect to make, seeking IT manager roles. Currently have 10 years experience mainly as IT Ops/Enterprise Support, Certs & Master's degree in IT with emphasis on Enterprise Technology Management.

3. What are some of the best places to look at for jobs? I went to visit Twitter HQ, liked it but not the area but Id be willing to overlook that for the right $.

Open to any other advice or suggestions I didnt mention here.

Thanks!

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  • Microsoft TOwT85
    You love the homelessness, the heroine epidemic, the cuckoldry? Overpriced living? Really?
    Aug 26, 2019 9
    • Taylor Farms azerty_
      What are good sex positive places in the Bay?
      Aug 26, 2019
    • Terminus / IT HankBank
      OP
      Lol SF was my least favorite also considering I have a wife and child SF would be hard to settle with. Im most interested in SoCal
      Aug 26, 2019
  • Axtria DesiLaunda
    Everything that glitters is not gold
    Aug 26, 2019 14
    • Terminus / IT HankBank
      OP
      You're at Byton in Santa Clara?
      How is life in Santa Clara? Pretty good?
      Aug 26, 2019
    • BYTON cJKu57
      Never lived in sc

      Sf is the place to live.
      Aug 26, 2019
  • Google burnItDown
    If you love mountains, water, buildings, and would also like to enjoy a much safer life with no homelessness or drug epidemics or shit on the road, you should go to Switzerland.

    They have the real mountain-view 😁
    Aug 26, 2019 2
    • Terminus / IT HankBank
      OP
      Lol want to stay in the US for now
      Aug 26, 2019
    • Expedia Group / Data exitpedia
      SF is as close as it gets to a European city IMO.
      Aug 28, 2019
  • New ϕ
    1. Define "comfortably." What's your lifestyle like? If you're not married and have no kids, you could live reasonably well on $200k. If you want to get a mortgage in a nice area, travel a lot, send your kids to the best schools, etc. then you'll need more.

    2. How technical/hands-on is your experience? Your background, as described, could go for anywhere between $200k and $500k. If you've been managing software engineers, that will command a premium. If you've been managing sysadmins who don't/can't code, then not so much.
    Aug 26, 2019 1
    • Terminus / IT HankBank
      OP
      Im married with 1 kid.
      27 years old.
      In terms of technical expertise...basically im the IT guy that handles everything technical w/o code. Ive managed IT ops folks and help desk folks. No engineering mgmt experience. Juts the folks that write scripts and deploy new software etc.
      Aug 26, 2019
  • LinkedIn haikuyi
    South Bay Area (Palo Alto, MTV, RWC) is more appropriate for families. SF works as well but to the detriment of your kid (seeing homeless poop, mentally ill, affluenza, etc)... You’ve missed the boat on living in SF IMO- it’s great for tourist but there’s only small pockets available for families (Noe Valley, etc). Good luck on your search!
    Aug 26, 2019 2
    • Terminus / IT HankBank
      OP
      Thanks for this info!
      What do you think I would need in terms of compensation to live in Palo Alto, MTV, RWC area?
      Aug 26, 2019
    • LinkedIn haikuyi
      If your kid is under 5 then child care is about 2k/month ... like 50k/year ... housing (1-2 bedroom) is about 3-5K per month ... you’ll need maybe a minimum of 300k -400k household income - fed and state tax is 30-40% ... it depends on the lifestyle that you want (Family vacations, buying a home or leasing, etc) Most people only stay for 2-5 years unless they make 400k+... Try using a cost of living calculator to compare The Bay Area with your current location... Good luck!
      Aug 26, 2019
  • IBM / IT
    slooniks

    IBM IT

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    Verizon, IBM
    slooniksmore
    I've never seen so many homeless people and cars on cinder blocks in the US than in San Fran.
    Aug 26, 2019 1
    • Terminus / IT HankBank
      OP
      Yeah l, the city was rough. SF is not my preference, but if its the only cali spot I can land a gig I'd go.
      Aug 26, 2019
  • 250+
    Aug 26, 2019 0
  • Terminus / IT HankBank
    OP
    Just found out that Google pays IT managers 120k or less.
    Not gonna be able to survive on that haha
    Aug 28, 2019 4
    • Juniper Pliny Jr
      Social workers don't make 100k
      Sep 2, 2019
    • Terminus / IT HankBank
      OP
      She's in GA now making 94k
      Her degree is in social work..but title is forensic case manager for complex series.
      Sep 2, 2019
  • Google alfarome0
    If you're single, you can live a very comfortAble life at 100k. Obviously, the actual savings goals and your expense habits will determine how much you actually need.

    E.g. if you're the kind of person who would live with a roommate, you can drop the housing number by 10-15k. If your hobbies are inexpensive: hiking, surfing, that takes some significant costs off.

    Will you have a car? If yes, depending on where you live, garages can cost you between 1 and 5k a year

    So on and so forth.
    Aug 26, 2019 3
    • Google alfarome0
      Sure. I don't know much about IT, so it's hard for me to answer how reasonable the expectation is, but numbers on that ballpark aren't unusual in software companies.

      By 100k, I was answering what you need to live comfortably using a very lax definition of comfort. My personal annual expenses are in the 75k range as someone with a few expensive tastes.

      Honestly, if you're ok with sending your kid to public schools, amd don't have significant expensive tastes, 100k is good enough for a family of 3.
      Aug 26, 2019
    • Terminus / IT HankBank
      OP
      How are Cali public schools?
      I want him to get a good education so school is a big deal for me.
      Aug 26, 2019
  • Facebook public2
    1) depends on your lifestyle
    2) depends on what you negotiate
    3) SF and the peninsula imho
    Aug 26, 2019 1
    • Terminus / IT HankBank
      OP
      Peninsula?
      Aug 26, 2019

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