Can I negotiate Google offer with potential promo?

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BananaGood

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BananaGood
Jul 6, 2021 11 Comments

Despite knowing Google's tendency to lowball, I didn't prepare a competing offer — As expected, I was lowballed. Is it possible to successfully negotiate the offer with a potential promo at Amazon? From the start of my interview, I did let my recruiter know that a promo was in the works, so I'm certain that she won't assume I'm pulling a desperate attempt out of my ass. Unfortunately, I don't have any tangible doc to support this apart from internal conversations with my manager & L7.

TC: 185k

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  • Amazon
    fWiX20

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    fWiX20
    Google asks for offer letter/proof if you try to counter, which I'm pretty sure is illegal, but I've always just sent it over because google is always downleveling me lmao

    Many companies aren't total asses about it, but Google is. I've never tried to simply say "I don't have a competing offer but here's my current TC and I'm not moving unless you hit $x." My intuition is that most companies are ok with this but Google will be annoying about it.

    Also unfortunately, the recruiter probably knows how amazon paybands work, and he/she probably knows that after your promo you will get placed into the absolute bottom band which is almost a meaningless bump. I'm no longer at amazon but I don't think anyone has EVER been happy with their post promo tc bump.

    I would try either 1. standing your ground. I have seen a 250k l3 offer with ~50k signon, so that is probably around as high as it can go. Just tell the recruiter you want $x, make sure it's within the band, and leave it at that 2. "fake" an offer letter and say that the other company is not letting you share it. You can say that you want to pause on the offer since you are in the process with FB (which should kick some life into them, they know they have to give you an actual comp package then)
    Jul 6, 2021 0
  • Google
    tpiK18

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    tpiK18
    My Google recruiter told me Google does not take into account your current TC when negotiating compensation, only competing offers.
    Jul 6, 2021 2
    • Microsoft / Eng
      racingsun

      Go to company page Microsoft Eng

      racingsun
      Is your current TC taken as the basis for the first TC numbers they present? I've heard G recruiters ask for current TC, do they use your current TC to baseline? If yes, what's the best way to decline to disclose
      Jul 6, 2021
    • Amazon / Eng
      rustacean

      Go to company page Amazon Eng

      PRE
      Facebook, Google
      rustacean
      They can’t ask your current tc if you live in California. They can ask similar questions; eg what level you are currently.
      Jul 6, 2021
  • Microsoft
    ufoseen0

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    Google
    ufoseen0
    I did that successfully. Depends on how much Google wants to hire you.
    Jul 6, 2021 2
  • Walmart
    rex213

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    rex213
    No recruiter or HM can LEGALLY ask for current TC or insist on seeing competing offers as offers are confidential between the issuing company n the person who received it !!!!
    Aug 2, 2021 0
  • Amazon
    tpecoco

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    tpecoco
    Does google even compete with Amazon offers? I've heard data points they don't
    Jul 6, 2021 0