My manager is not happy with me, kind of nitpick on every thing I do, I am only international in team and they all are very rasict to me , making my life tough in delaying pull request on purpose. I am concern about my this year review , what agre the changes he can screw this for me .Although I never argued or disobeyed him and purposely re- design my code, but it just plain he does not like me. I am for sure about change my team after review , what really asking like does he can bring storm on me this review or this happen when you don’t able to like argue or fight with manager?
I had same situation, I was only H1b in my team. Just leave. Everything happen for good you might realize later
It's okay if your manager doesn't like you. Everyone has a different perception on a person! It looks clear from his behavior that he is certainly not happy with your performance. I'm wondering if he has given any hint about this storm you are going to face in your 1on1s? I'm sure he has implied that in one of your meetings. Action Items: 1. Find another job. 2. Try maintaining a healthy relationship with your next manager and team. 3. Improve your English. 4. Refer people to whichever BigN you move to 😎
Thank you Ncfe11, I get the point where I had to move on to new team and improve upon my English . We never do 1:1 with our manager as per everyone knows what they are doing. No he never mentioned anything specific but keep on saying stuff to improve my code timing, which only gets delayed because he keep delaying it. But the real question which I am asking are 1. Do have seen anyone or heard who was like 3 years old member get sacked. 2. Is senior management like encourage this kind of ratings, I was a asset till like last year , now suddenly they want me to get out. 3. If he gave me like needs improvement rating then I can’t even change my team or can I ?
1. I have heard of people with 3 years experience getting sacked. Your responsibilities are not the same as an entry level developer. Managers have their own ways of assessing one's work. 2. I don't know much about how senior management sees this. 3. It's all subjective. It might be still possible. It's weird that your manager doesn't do 1:1. I believe it must be an important part of his own role. The tech world is bigger than this. Blind is full of lot of posts like yours from different companies. You can always steer your life in the way you want. Face this, grow stronger! :)
I know people(2) I who have been an asset with a team for *over* 3 years, got kicked off. Yes, handed them a "needs improvement" rating. Back story: Fact: First time manager gets new team and project. Said manager has a reputation as a tech prodigy (I highly doubt that, Cerner doesn't really "invent" IMO). Manager posts unrealistic deadlines (to impress exec/management? Idk). The *whole team* sets up meetings with the said manager *multiple times* tells him he is being unreasonable. Manager realizes, but does not admit he made a mistake. Proposed new "plan" where engineers work 8am-8/9pm 2 days a week (he even gave this process a name, I don't remember, AND, for 72k a year, lol. They started 67, moved on to 69 and fired at 71.5). No, this was not optional. The manager added this to the team's calendar that this is expected. Obviously, deadline he originally proposed was missed. *thrice*, lots of bad design choices because of hasty engineering. Too many bugs in a project that didn't go live by proposed time. Speculation: Manager asked for explanation. Blames the engineers as under performers. Picks out soft targets based on JIRA timings, apparently this team culturally doesn't document progress on JIRA. Actual story again: Put one of these engineers under some "improvement plan" fires the other one right away. Gives the engineer on plan a task to fix one of those defects in the project. Screwed that up with bad design, this time, engineer documents everything thereby having proof that it is not their fault. Still gets fired at the end. Lessons I learnt: 1. ALWAYS COLLECT LEVERAGE/PROOF IN THE CORPORATE WORLD. 2. It's not worth your effort, if they don't like you, they fire you. Classic example of high handedness. 3. Get credit, get exposure, speak up always and get noticed. Especially in Asian cultures, we are taught to be humble and not speak, remember, "speaking" doesn't count as "disrespect". 4. Take everything seriously, if your manager is joking about (not *with you, only be concerned if it is about you.) you for some reason, there is a chance that this might translate into passive aggression towards you. PS: I hear other(from trusted sources) engineers are planning on leaving this team. I am planning on leaving Cerner after this. I just cannot continue here knowing that Cerner does allow execs and managers to behave as such (my team isn't bad though, note how I didn't say they were great either).
To change team you have to be working at least 18 months in Cerner. I know that few managers kind of micro manage the team.If you feel that your manager is one of them am not surprised, you should change team or look for better opportunities.
Been there. I would suggest you move on and find a better job instead of stressing yourself.
Unfortunately there are a significant number of bad managers at Cerner. The best thing to do in these situation is to switch teams or leave. Yes, managers do have the power to arbitrarily screw you over. Had a similar experience at Cerner, 3 people left my team in 6 months. I was the last of these 3 people. My manager was a Micro manager with a big ego. Team ended up in crisis, hopefully he learnt a valuable lesson, it takes a lot of time to replace experienced engineers doing good work.
Which org are you in? Which campus are you in? I have such stories only from production/support engineers. You can start team change at 14months. It takes months for internal processing. 18month rule is merely a suggestion
Unfortunately if your Manager doesn’t have your back, you need to leave because your growth on that team will forever be stunted. On the opposite note, if you’re in good with your manager and they’re also capable, you can ride a very successful wave of annual reviews. Based on their curved system, you just need to be on the top side of that curve and stay there. I will say from experience and observation that you’re either in from the beginning or you’re not. Cerner Manager tend to pick their favorites and stay that way as they rise up the ranks together.
I find the same story in many cerner teams - 3 years, bad code review, immigrants. Looks like cerner as a company makes it as a hidden norm. No immigrant should work for them.
Your manager can always screw things up for you if s/he doesn't like you. This includes team changes, delayed promotion, poor review ratings etc which can ultimately affect your overall career growth and income. I would suggest working towards building better relationships with your manager, or looking into a team/job change. Also, you need to take an English course. It is important and forms an critical component of your everyday communication at work and beyond.
Thanks Axtria, I got that part that he or she can really do that, but just on that he don’t like me , I know he is a smart guy but , this is something like in the culture thing to fire by giving bad review, I am already spent 3 years with this team and this shit storm only started in past 6 months , but it was like I am getting high value + ratings in last 2 reviews. But I am really concerned this time. He stopped me meeting or interacting with anything which involves senior managers or things which I developed and giving credit to other team members.
Don't worry about it even before it has happened, you are just wasting energy in speculating what it may be and anticipating the outcome. If you aren't comfortable with your manager, talk to him/her 1:1, be transparent. And if that doesn't help, change team/job.