Amazon Pip

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yTDK46

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yTDK46
Mar 31 32 Comments

I was given a PiP today, after being placed on an action plan. I was not given any notice that the PiP was being given, in fact it came as quite a shock. I have grown leaps and bounds from where I started with my action plan 5 weeks ago. My manager has offered no support, help, or words of improvement. What can I do to keep my job? I have moved out of state for this role and have a lot on the line for this job. thanks!

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  • Apple
    AD6gi

    Go to company page Apple

    AD6gi
    These stories are so sad 😞 Sorry OP
    Mar 31 6
    • Devs that take 20 days to do something incorrectly that anyone else on the team can do in 1-2 max. And the amount of time spent reviewing it, giving feed back, assisting. Could have just been spent on doing the task yourself. But your not allowed to get rid of them because firing is like illegal now
      Mar 31
    • Adobe
      blindMafia

      Go to company page Adobe

      blindMafia
      Well, the same feedback could be provided and that they are being observed rather than this process of stack ranking and eliminating 15% every year.

      Now, you know why Amazon process sucks ?
      Mar 31
  • Hulu
    shadies

    Go to company page Hulu

    shadies
    Amazon stealthy Dev List / Focus / Coaching comes before Pivot entry for PIP... but your Amazon manager is not obliged to tell you that you are on Focus unless directly asked and many/most will lie or obfuscate when the question is posed. The Amazon manager has a mandatory URA exit quota to meet and the best way to do that is secretly building the evidence files / doc trails against reports whilst they are unwary!

    (Internal Mantra to keep on loop when dealing with your Amazon / AWS manager is "the lying liar lieth and still they lie their lies" which can help frame and guard your level of communication.)

    You need to forget about all work for Amazon except giving the appearance of doing bare minimum - start coasting that skit banana funded work right now!! Concentrate fully on interview prep and lining up external interviews with visa sponsoring employers.

    Lets assume that you have one year of penitude / servitude completed with Amazon / AWS so then you are eligible for paid FMLA leave..... this is a well trodden path (its Amazon so there are plenty of medics who will sign off around the WA HQ) so you will have no problems.

    You do NOT WAIT for PIP but you start now whilst in Focus and your approach should be:

    1) Dev List / Focus / Coaching which is the stealth tracking period where your manager does not need to even inform you that they are working against you and coercing your colleagues and others for anything negative (only the negative) against you and measuring you up for a PIP to the head....
    2) During the above get your medic to listen to your droning about the stress and mental anguish that Amazon / AWS is placing you under... also ask if they can sign off or refer you to a therapist who can do so urgently as the stress is ubearable (use the phrase unbearable stress and anguish and specifically also say that you need some weeks away from it under FMLA)... FMLA evidence flag is set...
    3) Amazon manager presents you with Pivot document and you have 5 days to choose Tier 1 severance or take PIP plan.... BANG this is where you submit FMLA into the DLS portal before the 5 days decision period is expired (DLS team need a day or so to respond to you so get this rolling at the start of the Amazon Pivot decision window) and then go on leave. Your backstabbing Amazon / AWS manager and HR cannot intervene if you do this as it is a separate team and *federal* mandated leave. The whole decison window for Pivot / PIP is now mandatorily paused beyond their control.... if it was within their control then they would of course be trying to sink you at every opportunity - its Amazon!
    4) Get FMLA paperwork completed by the medic who you have already lined up and prepped earlier and submit that supporting material into the DLS team.
    5) Tear through your interview preparation and job hunting networking to visa sponsoring companies and dont even consider one hour of work for Amazon... extend FMLA through renewal with the medic up to 12 weeks and throw in caring for family member as that is FMLA allowable too if your family are stressed that you are stressed.... so now you have taken 16 weeks of paid FMLA leave on Amazon's frugal dime.
    6) Burn through any paid PTO and sick days before returning to work too as only unused vacation time will be cashed out upon exit.
    7) Accept the job offer from a better visa sponsoring employer employer (there are so many compared to Amazon / AWS that if you throw a rock then you will hit upon one), which you undoubtedly will already have received by this time.
    8) Get the visa transfer process rolling under premium processing by the new employer.
    9) Return to Amazon / AWS and take the maximum Tier 1 severance option instead of PIP, since every step after not taking that decision reduces the exit payout from frugal Amazon severely.
    10) Cash the Tier 1 severance from Amazon and the sign on bonus from your new visa sponsoring employer and roll around on the floor surrounded by hundred dollar bills.
    11) Return to Blind and tell the community all about it..... not forgetting to add your new TC tax to the post!!!

    Bonus level...
    12) Rock it like a superstar and position yourself onto hiring panels in your new employer and never ever let an ex-Amazon/AWS manager get through..... your new colleagues will thank you. :-D

    It is the way...... and in dealing with Amazon it is a very common well travelled way... happy trails.
    Mar 31 4
  • If you want to keep Amazon job - βœ‹ stop.

    Start interviewing and get a better one.
    Mar 31 1
  • Amazon
    tfisup

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    tfisup
    Apply for FMLA immediately due to stress and don’t respond to the PIP. It will pause the process while you look for another job. Find another job and accept it. Prior to start date of new job accept the severance from Amazon PIP and be free.
    Mar 31 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    sp86

    Go to company page Amazon Eng

    BIO
    Staff frontend engineer 320k TC 10 yoe
    sp86
    Yay Amazon
    Mar 31 0