Change my mind: Mandatory return to office won't be until July 2022

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lawyercat

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lawyercat
Feb 6, 2021 15 Comments

Thesis (not original, also mentioned by others on various Blind threads): US won't reach 80% immunity via vaccination or infections by July 2021. If the return to office gets pushed to beyond Sept 2021, parents with kids in schools and other scenarios will rebel.. can't move homes and shift schools etc middle of the year. With tech productivity not being far from usual, management wont mind extending WFH until the end of the school year. We'll be asked to return after July 2022.
Beyond Q3 2021, performance of fully remote companies may also weigh in a factor (Twitter, Square)

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  • Charles Schwab
    damnyou12

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    Charles Schwab
    damnyou12
    Who said you need 80% vaccinated to return to office? These companies are crazy enough that they might ask you to just come to office mid 2021.

    We don’t know anything what they’re planning to do.
    Feb 6, 2021 5
    • Amazon / Data
      xTsU78

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      xTsU78
      RPOne, is July the current target for DD? Asking because I have a verbal offer and would be relocating.
      Feb 6, 2021
    • DoorDash / Eng
      RPOne

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      Amazon
      RPOne
      Yes. That’s the current official date to return to the office.
      If your in a low cost of living area now and would be relocating when office opens - dm me got a small tip for you.
      Feb 6, 2021
  • I agree that this is how things will pan out. A wild card is variants. Even if America gets to herd immunity for the current strains, the pandemic will continue in other parts of the world yielding more opportunities for variants to emerge which can elude our vaccines. That may mean we go back to square one again.
    Feb 6, 2021 0
  • New
    QR ·

    New

    QR ·
    The thesis is flawed:

    You do NOT need 80% immunity for mandatory return to office.

    Mandatory work from office is already starting in 2021, and for some companies started in 2020.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/us/coronavirus-citadel-securities-four-seasons-florida.html
    Feb 6, 2021 1
  • Google
    pretze

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    pretze
    No one knows. It’s just wait and watch right now
    Feb 6, 2021 2
    • Google
      lawyercat

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      lawyercat
      OP
      1. I am saying that's not correct. The numbers show you can't get to 80% vaccination before July unless a miracle improvement in vaccination speed, supplies, processes, policies happens. Past track record of govt (regardless of who's in power, the state and local govts haven't changed) says this is unlikely.

      2. "wait and watch" isn't the right answer. Those who haven't moved yet want to know if there's still a door of opportunity. Those who have moved don't want to come back in August and fight for high-priced Bay Area rentals, they'd rather plan ahead. Those with kids probably want to know their school plan beyond this May is.
      Feb 6, 2021
    • Google
      pretze

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      pretze
      As I said no one knows. With J and J and novavax there will be more supply. However this should be backed by a better supply chain. It may -it may not
      Feb 6, 2021
  • Western Digital / Eng
    Troll Food

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    Troll Food
    It might never be mandatory for all but significant amount to get the momentum. I think fall is possible but before summer is impossible.
    Feb 6, 2021 1
    • Cisco
      mAwg00

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      mAwg00
      Part of me sees fall, the other part thinks covid might get worse in fall/winter again so I don't see the point of going back then. Maybe spring 2022???? Were all guessing anyway
      Feb 6, 2021