YOE - 5 (1.5 in the US) Master's + Bachelor's in CS Amazon - 270k SDE2 Seattle Microsoft - 255k L62 Redmond Edit: Updating breakdown Amazon: Base 155k, Bonus 105k + 85k, 100 RSUs (this was after negotiating my MS offer) Microsoft: Base 150, Bonus 90k, Stocks 240k (stocks is what they mainly increased to match my ask) Both companies they increased approx $40k after negotiations. Based on several threads that I read here, I think MS has a higher effective TC (based on other benefits - 401k, Pro Club, ESPP, shuttle and cheaper food) but I'm not sure how your impact is assessed for yearly bonus. My target was quarter of a mil and experimentation oriented heavy work. Money is no more a factor because I got what I needed. I just want to know where I can have a higher impact. Because both places have amazing engineers, but I want to standout. Is it ok to go for MS? Can I switch to a different team easily there if I feel it's not running at the pace I need? (I've never worked at a large company. Current team size is 4. :p) I don't want to get complacent but I also want to spend time with my boyfriend, hangout with my friends afterwork for some random occasion and definitely on the weekends.(side eyes to on calls)
Being able to do mega backdoor Roth at MS is a huge plus.
the 401k? yeah. Apparently they give $9500. So you pay the other $9500. That's what I understand (haven't received the actual offer from MS yet for these details)
Nope, assuming you Max out pre-tax 401k, and get the $9500 match, mega backdoor allows you to contribute after tax dollars upwards of $27500 and they grow tax free.
Microsoft
Thanks. WLB is definitely better in MS based on what I read.
Can you share the compensation breakdown and location.
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Those numbers are quite high for L5 and 62. How are you calculating them?
Updated on the post. I think my interview went pretty well. I do feel it's an outlier. But they might have liked my previous projects.
MS and Amazon started to pay really well compared to G nowadays.
Microsoft.. Better WLB, Annual Bonus, Work is depend on the team. And they treat you like humans.
Appreciate your input. Yes. I've worked in company where I worked 85 hours a week for 2 years. I learned a lot, but started getting grey hair at age 23 (until I finally left). As long as they respect you as a person, which I think MS does, I'll consider that as a benefit. :)
About switching team, it is easy. Just approach the hiring manager. There is no interview (or less interview in some case) policy if you switch within the same org. You can switch anytime you want. Also, there is an internal career fair kind of thing once a year which makes internal mobility easy.
Microsoft. You're also getting a lot more stocks. However, stocks are taxed at a higher rate.
Even if I don't touch them for 2+ years?
You pay tax when they're vested. Then off course there is this bullshit thing called capital gain tax. But I'm not talking about cap gain tax.
If you are looking to stay somewhere for more than 2 years MS is a better option
Good offer. That was my L63 numbers last yr.
What's your decision finally? I'd suggest Amazon considering higher impact
Based on the fact that it's a new team and I'll have a higher impact at design and development, I am choosing Microsoft.
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Can't say the exact team, Amazon it's the core shopping experience. MS - Cloud services.
270k for SDE2 is a very good offer at Amazon.