CompensationJul 23, 2019
EPAM SystemsUncle Yoda

Compass verbal offer

Got a verbal offer from Compass (SWE level II): Base: 130k Equity: 120k(over 4 years period) No cash/sign-on bonus Currently employed by EPAM Systems but working as TVC (vendor) at Google NY for over a year. I applied last month to Google and reached on-sites but they rejected me. Also reached on-sites for Microsoft and Amazon last year but no offers. Current TC: ~140k (base + bonus, no equity) Current role: Senior SWE YOE: 9 (1 year on-site at Google NY, US and 8 years in small companies, outside the US) Should I accept the offer? It seems they're low-balling me, but it's slightly better than what I have now. Thoughts? Thanks in advance!

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Oath Atinlay2 Jul 23, 2019

A verbal offer is not an offer.

EPAM Systems Uncle Yoda OP Jul 23, 2019

So?

Susquehanna International Kristaps11 Jul 23, 2019

If you have nothing better why wouldn’t you take it? Can’t negotiate without offers at hand.

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HVlR72 Jul 24, 2019

Exactly. @OP - I got an offer with them last year, and they raised their offer by 50K after I gave them numbers from my competing offers.

EPAM Systems Uncle Yoda OP Jul 24, 2019

Good to know, thanks. I'm in a process with other two companies, hopefully I'll get an offer to negotiate further.

Compass hfxv Jul 23, 2019

Seems low

Redfin rmJN45 Jul 25, 2019

Stop copying our app dude ...

Compass pouejs Jul 26, 2019

Sorry that's basically the directive handed down from the top

Squarespace mk3nh3 Jul 23, 2019

A recruiting agency I worked with a while back told me they can offer $180k base for senior level with TC of $250-300k.

EPAM Systems Uncle Yoda OP Jul 23, 2019

Yes, I've heard/read the same. I applied to senior level (SWE III) but they said given my interview performance they can only offer SWE II. 100k difference between a single level seems too much.

Compass lmGK40 Jul 23, 2019

You can ask for at least 10k sign on

Compass FUPayMe Jul 24, 2019

You can get more

EPAM Systems Uncle Yoda OP Jul 25, 2019

What would you say is a fair, reachable comp?

Redfin rmJN45 Jul 24, 2019

Come and join us at Redfin :)

EPAM Systems Uncle Yoda OP Jul 25, 2019

Haven't heard of it before. Would you really recommend it?

Redfin rmJN45 Jul 25, 2019

I liked it here, public company but it is still like a startup. Engineering team is small compared to companies at similar mkt cap so you can make really good impact here. Are you only looking at NYC area? Redfin only has engineering office in TX, SF, SEA ...

Compass someguy851 Jul 25, 2019

Definitely negotiate. For one thing I have not heard of a SWE here without a signon bonus

EPAM Systems Uncle Yoda OP Jul 26, 2019

Ok, will do that. Thanks!