Compensation Evaluation?

New / Mgmt fIlT81
Dec 4, 2019 19 Comments

Hi all,

I recently joined Apple. Very inexperienced with negotiating salary, so I’m looking for input on the quality of the offer I received.

Software EPM | 6 years experience
Salary: 170k
RSU: 160k
Sign On: 30k

Thanks for your input

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TOP 19 Comments
  • Seagate toti420
    Extremely lowballed. Numbers should’ve been 300k/800k/100k. What are you gonna do? I think you should quit and apply somewhere else.
    Dec 4, 2019 12
    • Apple iidjebt
      This is a decent offer
      Dec 5, 2019
    • Deloitte / Consultant
      kqb291

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      kqb291more
      @seagate — if someone has made themselves vulnerable in such a manner and has sought genuine assistance from a professional community and you respond with sarcasm, it is being an ass...but whatever. What goes around comes around.
      Dec 6, 2019
  • Apple pusandisp
    Holy 170k base to write emails, prepare ppt and documentations with 6 yoe
    Holy I should become one too
    Dec 5, 2019 1
    • New / Mgmt fIlT81
      OP
      I know on my team, they looked for strong tech background. I think the key trait is being able to both understand the tech as if you were and engineer and talk about it clearly and concisely as a manager. Someone who will do justice to the engineers’ work when presenting to leadership and know how to keep the course clear down the road so that engineers can focus on the immediate project without tripping.

      Having been an engineer myself, good EPM support is something I wish I had earlier in my career.
      Dec 5, 2019
  • Microsoft seagull
    Have you seen the TC growth rate from FANG lately? It’s a fucking upward moving target. Even if you are being paid on the high side, these numbers will likely look lowballed just 1 year from now.

    You are focusing on the wrong thing and asking the wrong questions to help negotiate future offers. You already accepted the offer and joined the company. Discussing our current comp to get your next comp is moot since it is unlikely you will leave for lesser comp in your next move and your future employer can’t really ask you about your current comp numbers (assuming you stay in CA).

    In the future, the best way to know your market rate and get the best comp possible for your interview performance is to get multiple offers, period. You should be asking for advice on how to land multiple offers around the same time.
    Dec 5, 2019 0
  • Amazon Dr. Savage
    The only time I’ve ever gotten stuff from negotiations without leverage was to reject the current offer and walk away. Every time they come back with more.

    At your own risk.
    Dec 4, 2019 0
  • Apple zrqv72
    The 300k number is complete bullshit and will hurt you if you ask for it lol Please don’t fall for it. If you already joined I don’t see how you will move it up. If you haven’t joined you might be able to squeeze a little more depending on the org. Although now I’m wondering what will happen if you do ask for a base of 300 haha
    Dec 4, 2019 1
    • New / Mgmt fIlT81
      OP
      Thanks for your advice. More context:
      When speaking to the recruiter, they positioned me to make my initial salary request. They came back and upped the offer.

      Normally, I’d think that meant I came in too low. However, based on my research, I thought my offer was ambitious. Plus, now that I’ve joined, I’m learning from colleagues that Apple was really after me. I was headhunted. So I’m wondering if my compensation is low/average/high
      Dec 5, 2019

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