Competition, Rat Race, TC, Everything Bubble …

Amazon
DashMash

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DashMash
Dec 27, 2021 39 Comments

Recently got a Director job, made a house purchase offer, increased TC, shorted stocks, traded options, crypto and etc …

All good right ? Looks pretty good ?

Here is the reality:
- interviewed like there is no tomorrow … there were legitimately idiots on my interview loops … I believe I interviewed at least 50 times since august
- needed to compete with multiple competitions offers for the house purchase … researched the heck out of the markets and went through a lot of though decisions
- negotiated the heck out of my TC. Needed to play cards and etc
- I went through a lot of stress with shorting stocks and most of the trades. There were days that I though I will get margin calls … survived
- Survived amazon being SDM and PIPs/PIPed

Hence the rat race isn’t over yet … competition has become fierce. You need compete for your own job nowadays… spent all 2021 on survival and now 2022 starts in less than a week … rinse and repeat …

TC 650k
YOE 8

F&&k this tech life …

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  • Oracle
    sipsip

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    sipsip
    director at YOE 8 .
    I will run if I were under you.
    Dec 27, 2021 7
    • Op could be one of those extraordinary talents but I personally would never work for someone with with only 8 years of work exp. I refuse to interview if hiring manager’s “inexperienced”. No shade but everyone’s different and seeking different things.
      Dec 27, 2021
    • @Oracle this is age based discrimination. Go with wit ur old manager
      @Medallia which means you woudnt have worked with Mark Zucc, Bill gates, etc,. they were bigger than directors with 8 yrs..

      It is not about hw many years u have worked. It is about what u have learnt. if your inability to learn things faster than him makes if feel bad, its ur insecurity, not their "inexperience".
      Dec 27, 2021
  • Cadence
    super-man!

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    super-man!
    For some reason, this post makes me angry but at the same time sorry for you. Also, completely unnecessary!
    Dec 27, 2021 6
    • Amazon
      DashMash

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      DashMash
      OP
      I don’t know cause I literally haven’t got a chance to even think about it … all I did in the last 10 years of my life was working 80 hour weeks and survivals … I know nothing about what exists out of this race and don’t feel even comfortable exploring it …
      Dec 27, 2021
    • SAP
      nfLg87

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      nfLg87
      Hmm I get you. It becomes difficult to undo habits that we form over the years. Maybe try therapy? Like explore why you are uncomfortable coming out of this race? Once you have answer for it and got your fears conquered, then get into the real world and try real outside stuff that could rekindle the fire of living in you. It's definitely worth a try! I am hoping you won't post a similar post at the end of 2022. I am counting on you that you would respect and value your self and try stuff that you actually like!
      Dec 27, 2021
  • Isn’t 650 low for a true director at Amazon? I’d expect it to be closer to 1M or even more.
    Dec 27, 2021 6
    • Amazon
      DashMash

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      DashMash
      OP
      Pay is a function of region you are in, YOE, org size and PnL you own (if any) … HR directors are $250 a pop and SDM directors are 1 M each … I’m in software but I just got promoted to run a very large team which is almost 4 times of prior org … at this age that I’m in (34) that pay is good. In a year, I will come back and either ask for more or move to another company with that 1 M pay …

      I can’t be maximizing everything in my life in such a short period of time … while I have been pushing the envelop significantly in the past decade or so, it started costing me my mental health and family … also there are some skill gaps in me that I’m self aware… if I don’t get to practice them now, next year when my org doubles I won’t be able to even maintain this 650k … PIPs are real at amazon and other places is extremely hard to get Director level jobs …

      Being realistic is something that is missing in Blind community nowadays
      Dec 28, 2021
    • Yeah, I think FlightAware already clarified that in their reply. But, I would echo some of the other comments suggesting that YOE and age should largely be irrelevant. You're doing great for a 34 year-old. No doubt about that. But, your pay should be commensurate with your abilities and responsibilities; not a function of your age. I wouldn't consider the expectation of being paid the going market rate unrealistic.
      Dec 28, 2021
  • Folks like OP keep confirming my belief to never hire ppl managers from Amazon
    They have lost touch with humanity
    Dec 27, 2021 1
  • SAP
    gymnastj8

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    gymnastj8
    Why are you gambling in trading if you’re making $500k-$650k?
    Dec 27, 2021 2
    • Amazon
      DashMash

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      DashMash
      OP
      Cause it is a skill set you need to learn and get comfortable with… as you get outdated by the labor force, you may find yourself in a situation where you are struggling to get back to the race thus you need to have other skills to make the ends meet… you know how much I pay for mortgage, healthcare and etc … money flys and god forbid if the w-2 stuff stops for a few months you will burn through all them savings … then what ?
      Dec 27, 2021
    • Dropbox
      chubbyFIRE

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      chubbyFIRE
      No one *needs* to trade. Buy and hold works just fine long term. You need to look into FIRE.
      If you don’t have enough savings/investments to survive a few months of unemployment, you are spending way to much $$.
      Dec 27, 2021