Hi Blind, 1. Google L4 (Sunnyvale) - Gmail EngProd 2. DoorDash E5 (SF) - Consumer 3. Amazon SDE II (SF) - AWS (new product) YOE: 7.5 I did a couple rounds of negotiation and the TCs are around 300k. I will note that the Amazon recruiter did say it was an exploding offer of 4 days. At Amazon, I would be launching a new product which seems cool and they use tech that isn't just home grown. DoorDash is currently the leader in the food delivery market. Google has the best WLB and stability. Regarding location, SF > Sunnyvale. Where am I at? If Amazon can bump up my TC by 15 - 20k, I think I will choose them. I would like to experience FAANG and it seems that they have a similar philosophy of shipping things quickly. The product also seems the most interesting. Please advise.
Why is DoorDash even an option?
Yeah, what do they even do now?
1. They have me leveled as a E5 which seems to be comparable to G's L5. 2. I would be learning more on the business/product side as opposed to just doing test automation framework in EngProd for G. 3. SF > Sunnyvale
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Find a better option. Airbnb/Strip/Robinhood etc. They pay well and you’ll likely get L5. DD = underpaid in 4 years GG = Still L4 in 4 years Amazon = WLB exploded in 4 years
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I would expect doordash E5 to be much higher than G L4 on paper, however the equity for doordash is overstated cuz SoftBank valuation... If doordash and google actually both come out to 300k then google is easy choice.
I think the problem here is that I don't have leverage to bump up DD's offer.
The problem is that you have a strong Google offer and no offers from comparable tech firms, and so the choice is easy here — Google.
I've kinda been at all 3 companies, worked at Amazon for a while, then a very similar company to DD in the same space and am now at Google. Doordash - fuck paper money, already been burned by that Amazon - they'd need to pay me at least 50% more than Google for me to go back
Why does Amazon need to pay you 50% more than G? Amazon's stocks are liquid.
Mark43 I think you need a separate poll of just amazon vs doordash. That one would be interesting...
Don’t even consider DD
I'm pretty surprised at how little support Amazon has gotten considering the locations. The commute to Sunnyvale is pretty horrendous. I've seen the lack of support for Amazon across Blind, but is that warranted? You can't doubt the success of their products.
Regarding Amazon vs G, a good data point is people switching between then. I know a ton of people who have gone from Amazon to Google, but 0 who have the other way. Not saying they don't exist, I've never seen one myself.
I know of two who went from G to A. They both had been at A before and had a sugar daddy there promoting them. They basically used G to level up. They also liked working long hours and having lots of responsibility, and Amazon doesn’t disappoint in either of those.
Don’t consider amazon if G is offering same pay. With refreshers at G within a year you’d be higher tc with better wlb.
People like to shit on Amazon for the following reasons: Compensation (includes lack of perks) and WLB. Read up on Amazon compensation and refreshers. Nonetheless, 300k is the top end of SDE 2. WLB, depends on individual teams. AWS is a great place to learn. Especially if you are dealing with a new product. I've spent a few years in AWS and I've learnt a lot. You seem to be leaning towards AWS. Give it a shot.
Here you go [Blind] Check out this post! How “refreshers” work at Amazon (Compensation) https://us.teamblind.com/s/pVJmPiL4
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