Struggling as EM - Undiagnosed ADHD?

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Apr 18 15 Comments

Being an EM is the hardest thing I’ve ever attempted. I thought I just needed to push through it and learn new skills, but it’s been a few years, and most days I’m still overwhelmed, completely stressed out, and feel like I’m trying to keep my head above water—despite having learned an awful lot.

Some friends recently asked me if I’ve ever been diagnosed with ADHD, and I’ve been shocked to realize the symptoms describe me very well. I didn’t realize hyper-focus and terrible time management were common symptoms. In fact, I’m pretty sure I’m only on Blind to procrastinate on my taxes for another hour or two until I have no choice but to buckle down and get them finished.

I was a developer for over a decade, and while I faced the occasion stressful project timeline, overall I felt very competent. Managers and clients were happy with my performance, and I don’t recall stress being a regular part of my day. I thrived on focusing on 1-2 large projects at a time (and some lower priority bugs and tech debt for variety).

As a manager, I have 4-5 meetings a day, and it utterly drains me. I feel chronically behind. The context switching is overwhelming, and I feel like a bottleneck for my team, despite delegating wherever possible. I don’t feel like I have control, and my poor ability to estimate project timelines is a frequent point of frustration for the business. But I think I’m actually good at mentoring and developing the people I manage. I think I add a lot of value reviewing and signing off on our system design and making sure we didn’t miss anything — when I’m not too stressed out to do those things well.

I’ve tried to explain to my boss that I need to be able to work on fewer things at a time to be able to do well at them, and the feedback I’ve received is multi-tasking comes with the territory.

I don’t take ADHD medication. I have some good friends who do, and I don’t like the impact it’s had on them. They don’t see the negatives, but I see how it’s changed their personalities, and I don’t want to go down that road.

My question is whether others with ADHD have found a way to be effective in this type of role that requires the ability to estimate timelines and deal with frequent interruptions or if I’d be better suited at switching back to a staff role. My ability to hyper-focus used to be my secret weapon. I’ve pulled off 14-hour days and 60-80 hour weeks as a developer with ease and been credited with saving critical projects. By contrast, I can barely get through a 4-5 hour day today. I suspect the problem is I no longer have the time to hyper focus. Music was also a regular part of my day and helped me hyper focus right up until starting this role. Without music and the ability to focus, I feel like I’m fighting an uphill battle.

I thought I just needed to suck it up and try harder. After learning about ADHD, now I wonder if I’m just in the wrong role.

Thoughts?

15 yoe, $250k

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    chicken_nu

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    chicken_nu
    I struggle with ADHD as well. Also found EM work a nightmare.

    First get yourself a therapist, then a psychiatrist so you can get evaluated.

    Therapy and medication will help— but seems like you may just want to consider moving back to SDE. No shame in that— a lot of ppl have done it. TBH 4-5 meetings per day is great for an EM. 9-10 per day is more typical.
    Apr 18 3
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      😳 9-10 meetings per day sounds like my personal hell.
      Apr 18
    • Oracle
      chicken_nu

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      chicken_nu
      Yeah I agree. I can do maybe 3 hours of meetings in 1 day before my brain turns into a a yo-yo bouncing all over the place.

      Any qualified mental health professional should do— you can start with your PCP.

      FWIW, I had no idea I had ADHD for a long time because I assumed mental health issues were a sign of weakness because of the culture I grew up in. I said “because I am successful, I could never have that”. But in hind site, I was short selling myself of a much better quality of life.

      Glad both of you are also seeing the light.
      Apr 18
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    HQHY57

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    HQHY57
    As a manager you will always have to context switch and will have multiple draining meetings on your calendar. There will always be option to grow on IC track if that’s what you enjoyed. Don’t be hard on yourself as this is not matter of days or weeks.
    Apr 18 1
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      I was sort of pushed into this management path when I started asking for higher TC. Thanks to Blind, I now believe higher TC is possible as an IC. I did learn to enjoy developing my team though.
      Apr 18
  • Never formally diagnosed with ADHD, but definitely have symptoms like problem focusing on boring tasks, time-management, hyper focus on unrelated problems etc

    My solution is to maximize TC while staying IC and FIRE ASAP. After that I will simply work on my own stuff at my own pace. Have no interest in management whatsoever
    Apr 18 0
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    metaschmuk

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    metaschmuk
    Try changing team/company as a manager. If that doesn't help go back to being an IC. Different personality types excel in managing and ICing. But your current arrangement could be the problem too, first rule that out.
    Apr 18 2
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      No other teams available at my company, but I have an EM job offer on the table that comes with a large pay increase. I’m conflicted with whether to take it. Part of me says more money and a fresh start will fix the problem. The other part of me worries it’s setting me up for higher stress and bigger failure.
      Apr 18
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      metaschmuk

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      metaschmuk
      Take it, try it for a year. Worst case - you'll confirm the suspicion that management is not for you, best case - you'll like management and get a pay increase.
      Apr 18
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    Fs0ziety

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    As someone with adhd and takes vyvanse - I’d never want to be an M1/M2 manager. Hyper focus, being good technically from practice and continuous learning and efficiency in execution are what I excel at, and leadership at a technical level, eg staff+ is a much better fit for me and more fun. Maybe management isn’t playing to your strengths, and consider changing?
    Apr 18 0