Amazon vs uber

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Nov 30, 2018 28 Comments

Amazon L5 applied scientist ii in Alexa automotive team based in Santa Clara: 175k base + 148 stocks + 200k sign on

Uber L4 machine learning engineer in uber eats based in SF: 153k base + 9600 rsu + 65k worth annual refresh and cash + 25k sign on

Amazon says they can possibly increase by another 8-10% on the entire compensation if I give verbal accept and process is gonna go through the director. The cost is no raise or stocks refresh in first two years.

Uber says they can possibly give another 20k sign on if the other offer is really competitive.

Which one is more promising? How should I negotiate to improve?

PS:I will give more information here about my preference. The role in Uber is more like an engineer role, in which you work with the DS and implement their prototype model into pipeline, while the AS role in Amazon provides you the chance to do some your own research. Besides, I am not sure if there will be any on call for Uber MLE, but probably not for AS in Amazon.

Secondly, Uber is in downtown SFO, which is quite far away from my girlfriend, who works in Google Sunnyvale office.

However, as many mentioned, the opportunity of IPO of Uber is also really attractive. That's why it is hard for me to make the decision.

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    • Amazon / PR
      jefe_bezos

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      jefe_bezos
      OP gets a guaranteed 275k TC for years 1 and 2 not including RSUs which average out to another 25k average per year at today’s price.

      At $1600 per AMZN share:
      Year 1: 287k
      Year 2: 310k
      Year 3/4: 270k

      “Meaningful RSUs” for the first two years are not important and if anything the guaranteed cash in this market may be preferable.

      Whether or not the Uber offer over the four years will lend to more money in the long run is a separate argument.
      Nov 30, 2018
    • Optym
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      Started one
      Nov 30, 2018
  • Google
    iogear

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    iogear
    200k sign on wow
    Nov 30, 2018 2
  • Amazon
    cmdgc

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    cmdgc
    I have to say the L5 offers these days are really insane.
    Nov 30, 2018 2
    • New / Eng
      jbnote

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      jbnote
      Yeah i feel so bad about myself with 8.5 yoe and still hovering around 210
      Nov 30, 2018
    • Amazon
      cmdgc

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      cmdgc
      Nah, don’t feel bad. That’s what Blind does to people, makes you feel bad about yourself, be it intentionally or not.
      Nov 30, 2018
  • Uber
    pizzasauce

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    PRE
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    pizzasauce
    I work as a ML Scientist at Uber (not in Eats) - but we really need and value MLEs. On the flip side, our ML infrastructure is still a bit antiquated (needs way more work to train, manage and productize models than say other big companies). Just more things to consider. DM me if you want more info on how ML and AI works at Uber.
    Dec 1, 2018 0
  • Amazon / IT
    shalom

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    shalom
    I work in the Santa Clara office. Do not join, the teams here love to micromanage, there is no office culture, the average ML talent in the office is low, you'll learn a lot more at Uber. Stay away from the Santa Clara office
    Dec 2, 2018 1