I’m a 12 year founder, created 3 products that were used my millions of users. Decided to move from founder to PM. Got referred to Facebook, amazon, google, Netflix.... got to the last round with everyone and no offer. I have no idea what I’m doing wrong. As a founder I believe I have the PM skills without having the frameworks. Ps: great comments here - thanks guys! About the frameworks, I did follow a simple one during the interviews : set a goal, gather data/learn everything you can, define the problem, find the solutions, prioritize, measure success. Help?
I do, in one of my companies I had 40+ employees and worked closely with the devs, designers and the CTO everyday.
You made it to the last round. Tells me you’re hire-able and that it’s just a numbers game. Keep trying.
Being a great PM unfortunately doesn't translate directly to cracking FAANG PM interviews. These companies have a pretty standard rubric that they evaluate each candidate by to filter out signal from noise. Acing interviews doesn't guarantee great performance on the job and vice versa. Even though you feel you don't need frameworks, get into the interviewing mindset so that you understand the rubric you are measured against and do a lot of practice rounds. You'll get there fairly soon with your experience. Good luck!
What does the standard rubric look like?
Usually has six sides. 9 squares per side. Multi colored. Spins on an axis both vertically and horizontally. If you’re good you can get each side to be a single color.
How come you want to be a PM to work for someone else now? Most PMs want to be in your shoes instead.
I started questioning this and I’m thinking about going to start another company... it’s painful, but it feels like it’s the right thing to do
Can I join? I want to be a founder and can offer you a fresh perspective.
It's better. These corporates will wear you out.
why are you still interviewing, you should have retired by now
Not every founder banks millions... I was very close once and missed a huge opportunity by a few months.
Apply to Shopify. We love entrepreneurs.
Yeah! That’s what I was told by Facebook too! 🤣😂
Got any tips on cracking the case study?
It’s not you, it’s them. I am serious. They have a specific mold that they want you to fit within that mold. You might be Steve Jobs, Jeff B., Elon M…. And still fail their interviews. Again, they are looking for that missing piece of the puzzle they are playing regardless of your capabilities.
Probably some HR minions still trying to play by the book. They can't recognize a genius even if you stand in front of them. Sigh
@Veritas you are absolutely right!
Only thing you need to do next time is to get mock coaching sessions from ex PM employees of those companies which is the most critical way to the success. because your past experience doesnt matter if you dont know their game. unfortunately it isnt something that generic PM or CEO knowledge can handle.
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Do you have the people skills to collaborate and share responsibility with other teams? Honestly a PM has to be the ultimate partner to Eng and sometimes Design. A Founder isn't inherently a partner to anyone other than co-founders and investors.