Tech IndustryNov 11, 2019
HuluTrNf5340

Did I just lowball myself?

Had a phone interview today (non-FAANG which BTW they stole Amazon's LPs & interview process & posed it as their own) & it went great. At the end of the interview the recruiter asked for my salary requirement and I said $175k. Then she asked is that TC or base & me being stupid enough said TC and she said we could work that out. My current TC is $135k (all base; no deductions other than tax). The company is not public so no RSUs. I'm guessing their TC is only base & bonus. How badly did I screw myself? Trolls go ahead and šŸ˜‚ at me all you want I'm sure I deserve it. I was thinking about telling them I have an offer for $190k & see if they'll counter. TBH not super excited to work for them anyways so even if they say no I won't be too heartbroken but for future how should I negotiate salary when the recruiter won't give a range and will push for me to tell mine? Position: TPM (Program) Location: LA

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Microsoft Beepbopyip Nov 11, 2019

Yoe?

Hulu TrNf5340 OP Nov 11, 2019

I have a very low TC I know so please don't šŸ˜‚ at me (or do). I'm a crossover to IT/Tech; Total yoe: 14; IT/Tech: 9

Microsoft Beepbopyip Nov 11, 2019

You are going to be unhappy if you keep reading blind. I'd suggest deleting this thread and moving on with life.. life > tc

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AmazonEng Nov 11, 2019

You landed at the wrong foot when you are just beginning negotiations... but on the positive side itā€™s still an increase in TC.

Amazon OyQW43 Nov 11, 2019

Just donā€™t answer expected tc

Hulu TrNf5340 OP Nov 11, 2019

Yes I know šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜” but when they ask straight out and unwilling to give a range on their end then I have to respond

Amazon OyQW43 Nov 11, 2019

nah u still donā€™t need to.

Microsoft groupToo Nov 11, 2019

Don't sweat it. Get a competing offer, that is the easiest fix, and next time avoid that question with a non answer like "I just want a competitive pay with the usual 20-30% bump, not looking for something outrageous like 500k". If that doesn't work make up a story about how your current employer is willing to match/exceed offer (may only work once)

Hulu TrNf5340 OP Nov 11, 2019

Thank you! I'll be sure to try that. In the past I've said something like: I'm looking for $190k since my current salary is $175 so I want something more, even though they're not supposed to ask for my current salary and it has worked. This way they know I won't go under $175k.

Microsoft panamap Nov 11, 2019

Remember if a company pays you lower than everyone at that level - at some point they will have issues , because the midpoint will drag down and it would be unfair . So I remember someone who asked me X$ and we were hiring her for L61 and she is from East coast , she was moving to Redmond . We at Microsoft gave her 2 times of what she asked for , because that was the midpoint at that level . So ā€œgoodā€ companies are fair and donā€™t care about what you are making or what you ask for , when low, they will give you the midpoint which is the fair option.

Hulu TrNf5340 OP Nov 11, 2019

Thank you very much! However, I feel your statement is true for FAANG & other big companies but not everyone else. Smaller companies don't go by that standard. They try to low ball you until they get big enough that they can't get away with it

LinkedIn tjNJ73 Nov 11, 2019

When youā€™re not ready just say ā€œI need to do some research before I give you a rangeā€. That will buy you some time

Hulu TrNf5340 OP Nov 11, 2019

Thank you! But I don't want to come off unprepared