Do you count PhD research assistant job in YOE?
When you people say your YOE in blind, how do you count it? 1) Do you count research jobs during PhD or masters in EE/CS if research is relevant? I'm assuming non relevant PhDs do not count, (or do they?). Also grad school jobs are half time jobs (20 hour per week), so if counted, do you divide years by 2? 2) Do you count internships? 3) Do you count less relevant jobs? For instance jobs with coding involved but not as an SWE.
At Microsoft, it depends on team or org. My friends who did PhD at overseas colleges, got in with level 62 (high sde2) at Bing org whereas other friends who did it at top 20 colleges got into Azure as level 59-61. Unless you are recruited as a researcher (level 63), you don’t even know what level you will get and can’t select a team if you go through college recruiting.
If it's relevant I'd count it. If it was only part time effort I'd divide it by 2.
Yes. You have N years of experience outside of coding. PhD work is work. You're paid for it.
It was actually all coding and ML research, very similar to what I do now.
No
Wake up.. maybe other companies like Google value PhD’s, but MS does not! Anyway, Google was founded by two PhD’s while MS was created by college drop-outs..
Two PhD dropouts
Thanks for pointing that out :-) But you got the point...
1) “PhD plus N yoe,” don’t add grad school years, no prize for taking 8 instead of 3. 2) No, “PhD plus X internships plus Y yoe.” 3) Maybe, if coding was a primary responsibility.
No, and I have both 1 and 2
Same.
Same.