Down-leveled Google (L3) vs Salesforce (SMTS) vs Lyft

Dec 6, 2019 47 Comments

Current TC 190K. 4+YOE, OCI Senior MTS
Can you please help me compare Google vs Salesforce vs Lyft. All of them are bay area based

Salesforce:
I have heard a lot of good things about the company culture and I liked the team/project a lot. They are offering me Senior MTS and 185K Base 200K stocks/4 years and 30K joining bonus (and 30K retention bonus at the end of 1st year) + 15% bonus.

Google :
The recruiter said they can only extend an L3 offer. I faced technical issues at one of the coding interviews and I took a hint in the other coding interview. I guess these didn't play to my advantage.
I have always wished to work at Google partly because of how much my friends love the work and employee-friendly culture, partly because of the free food and partly because of the brand name.

Lyft:
I heard back positive feedback from the recruiter Lyft. They haven't told me about the level or the compensation but I am positive it is not going to be down leveled.

Had the google offer been L4, I would have chosen it without skipping a beat. But now I am a bit disappointed because of the level, the kind of work I will get at that level and also (it sounds petty) the fact that people with my experience are generally at L4 and I will be at L3.
Would Google be able to match at least the salesforce offer at L3? Also, would it be wise to take the Google offer? Any Googler who had done the same in the past? Were you able to climb the ladder to L4 quickly?

In case you feel, I should not join Google, how would you compare salesforce to Lyft?

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  • Google
    OlPU50

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    OlPU50more
    Go to Salesforce.

    The worst thing about google is bad career progression, and being hired as L3 makes it even worse. Also, that offer from Salesforce is above any L3 offer I've seen. It's not very special working at google anymore
    Dec 6, 2019 5
    • Salesforce iwereu
      Employee friendliness is good in salesforce. What kind of perks (lunch food) you think google has but not SF. It is unlimited PTO in salesforce, how about in google.
      Dec 7, 2019
    • Salesforce 0gg0
      Sorry, "unlimited". FTFY
      Dec 7, 2019
  • Google dinoball
    Dude, I think this is a no-brainer. I think salesforce has a much better culture than google based on what I heard.

    But the main problem with salesforce is probably the stock refreshers. Rumor has it that salesforce stock refreshers don’t make up for your signon stock. But if you are happy in salesforce, please don’t come to google. My google experience has not been good because I am in a bad team now.
    Dec 6, 2019 11
    • Google dinoball
      Well, 3/5 is called “Exceeds” (i.e. good). I don’t know the answer to your question.
      Dec 7, 2019
    • Salesforce curious03
      Exceeds rating is less than Meets 4 ?
      Dec 7, 2019
  • Salesforce rat race 🧀
    Salesforce is awesome offer. Take it. You'll love it here.
    Dec 6, 2019 6
    • Salesforce rat race 🧀
      Join Salesforce but keep leetcoding. It's a hit or miss. Which org and team
      Dec 7, 2019
    • Salesforce abzt123
      As any large company goes, it’s hit or miss because so much is dependent on what team you join. But at Salesforce the team that interviews you is usually the team that you’ll be on (barring headcount issues) so evaluate based off of that. Some companies have team matching process afterwards so more flexibility there
      Dec 7, 2019
  • Google 6Feet6Inch
    I’d suggest waiting for Lyft numbers as it would most probably blow the other two out of the water. :)

    On the other hand, the Salesforce offer is quite good!
    Dec 6, 2019 10
    • Salesforce curious03
      @Salesforce, what does Lyft do, if one doesn't get h1b even in 3rd attempt ?
      Dec 7, 2019
    • Salesforce abzt123
      @curious03 that I’m not sure as I was lucky and got my H1-B the second time round. I could see it being an issue with smaller companies that don’t have international offices.
      Dec 7, 2019
  • Salesforce brocolli
    If you are career oriented and like fast paced work, you will hate it here at Salesforce. They don't have anything to offer other than culture and wlb.
    Dec 6, 2019 2
    • Salesforce / Eng cloud44
      other than. lol. culture and wlb are the important things.
      Dec 8, 2019
    • Bloomberg Enig16
      Depends on age.
      Dec 11, 2019
  • Infosys BRY47
    Salesforce is in SF right, I’d take it cause of that tbh. Also, people with 10+yoe have gotten L3 at Google, down level seems to be their standard.
    Dec 6, 2019 2
    • Oracle jUNv71
      OP
      One of the reasons I am hesitant about Salesforce is the fact it is at SF 🙃. It's so unnecessarily expensive and I hate the commute to work.
      Dec 6, 2019
    • Infosys BRY47
      Fair enough, maybe you can move closer after your lease is up.
      Dec 6, 2019
  • Lyft kyyw20
    If you get a L4 offer from Lyft, you wouldn’t need to even think. L4 lyft offer can be 300k or more
    Dec 6, 2019 1
    • Oracle jUNv71
      OP
      @kyyw20 how do you like working at Lyft? And what about the future of Lyft? Do you think it can be a bit unstable choice in terms of job security?
      Dec 6, 2019
  • Salesforce / Eng cloud44
    if you want great wlb and to enjoy life pick Salesforce. it’s great.

    if you want good wlb and to push yourself constantly pick Google.

    either way you’ll do great. L3 at google is not as bad as you think in this stage of your career.
    Dec 8, 2019 0
  • Amazon misa-misa
    Op let us know the Lyft offer. Hopefully that's your saviour. A year there and maybe then G gives you l4. Also tryout few other companies and see if you get something better.
    Dec 8, 2019 0
  • Salesforce bdij284
    One option is join salesforce and try to change the team in 7-8 months.. internal team changing is very easy and efficient. There are teams in Palo Alto, if thats better commute for you than SF. Only thing is you will have to bear SF commute for 8-9 months to 1 yr max
    Dec 7, 2019 0

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