Back in September, my employer asked me to lead a team of 4 developers. I had been working for the company for 9 months at that point. In that same conversation, I asked to have a discussion about what that means for an adjustment to my compensation as a result. The company’s (Toronto) compensation package is pretty bare-bones. I’m a senior developer (8 YoE) and I make 120k, no stock, no bonuses, 80% health coverage, no perks. TC rolls out to ~125k. I was told there wouldn’t be any compensation increase for at least 3 months because they “aren’t willing to pay for something they weren’t certain was going to work”. I followed up with “if that is the case, why are you asking me to be a team lead in the first place?” There was an immediate backpedal and they said “That’s just the way it works here - everybody who has been asked to team lead hasnt had any discussions about compensation bumps until 3 months have passed.” Continuing on, the director I was speaking with said: “in 3 months be persistent in following through with the compensation conversation”. I reluctantly agreed and have been doing it since, but there’s been no paper trail of the role change at all. The 3 month mark will be December 2nd, and I need to know how to handle this situation and what to ask for. I dont know if there even is a bonus structure, and they absolutely arent giving out any more stock to anybody. • What’s a reasonable salary ask for a senior developer, managing a mix of 4 other intermediate + senior developers? • How do I ask for retroactive pay for the 3 months where being a team lead worked out just fine for them? • What would you do?
Job roles change all the time. They have no reason to promote you until you become marketable in the expanded better paying elsewhere role.
Retroactive pay... smh
I actually laughed out loud when i read that.
they will retroactively deduct pay from him for on the job training expenses
Will let others who are team leads answer the question about compensation, but the scenario you mention is not uncommon at all. People are often asked to take up additional responsibilities, especially tech/team lead without being given an official title or pay bump right away. Infact you should see it as a positive thing that you were asked to lead a team and if you (and your manager) think you have done a good job, now is the time to discuss how this can turn into an official promotion with a pay hike. My 2 cents - do not ask for retroactive pay. Instead just consider it a temporary audition and now use the result of your good work and make a case for an official promotion.
Good resume builder, follow up persistently on the raise and if they don't grant it then get out with your shiny new team lead status. Even if they do give you a raise consider getting out, it doesn't sound like they value you if they were so averse to compensating you.
I would do what needs to be done for the group. I would then use it as a case for a raise or promotion once I had proved myself.
As other have said make use of the new title and then move on if compensation doesn’t add up in December. Either way a raise is in your future!
Tell your boss you cant miss this event!
They made a mistake. You’re not a leader. You’re a wannabe pm
Should have asked for the retro pay in writing, as an employment agreement addendum. Now you need to start interviewing again or you're gonna be the guy posting about burnout in 6 months
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I suggest you graciously accept the new role, do great work as a team lead for the three months period, then put it on your resume and gtfo of there.
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Yep & from experience, that's nothing new. Been working like that at almost most places