Tech IndustryJan 14, 2020
AmazongYLH88

Engineering -> Manager -> Engineering?

I started my career off as a Program Manager (which was more of an internal tooling Eng Manager role as I had direct engineering reports eventually too) for 2.5 years. I then moved to a Data Engineer role which I have been in for 2.5 years. All tech firms, FAANG included. I seem to be getting traction for jobs like ‘senior analyst’, ‘data engineering manager’, ‘program manager analytics’ roles, rather than pure Data Engineer / technical roles at firms like LinkedIn, Airbnb, Expedia, HubSpot etc. I get rejected for Product Manager - Data roles though. At FAANG its the opposite (they interview me for Data Engineer roles). (What is strange is I freelance on the side and work on Data Engineering projects specifically for fun on weekends so I am wondering how to convey my passion for DE further!) I am wondering if it is best to get into a role (like one of the above) at decent firm first in Dublin’s HQ through such a role, move to the US internally, while LeetCoding for SDE positions internally. I will finish my Masters in Computer Science this year too. I notice at a lot of firms the Engineering headcount is dominant in the US (Airbnb for example have literally no engineering roles in UK/Dublin). I also notice Data Engineering is rolled up into Software Engineering at a lot of places and perhaps because I’ve never been a pure Software Engineer my application is seen as less technical? Would being in Dublin, where there are a lot more tech firms and eng headcount, be better than London?

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MixLife Jan 14, 2020

You seem to have answered your own question. If you're already at a great company for a SDE role. I'd LC and move in that direction internally. If family and mortgage(s) are a non-issue, I'd move around too.

Amazon gYLH88 OP Jan 14, 2020

I am doing LC and planned to move internally but it may not be an option due to some internal circumstances. Therefore just planning for a back up plan. Also placed like LinkedIn etc seem nicer than Amazon to work for. Family/mortgage is not an issue as I am single and commitment free. :)

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MixLife Jan 14, 2020

In that case, I'd apply globally, why limit yourself to Dublin?

Amazon gYLH88 OP Jan 14, 2020

US VISA or other country VISAs are not possible unless I move internally I reckon. Dublin I can work in without sponsorship and the UK (I am a British Citizen). Am I overlooking something?

Airbnb bnbair Jan 14, 2020

What company has engineers reporting to program managers?

Amazon gYLH88 OP Jan 14, 2020

I was more of an internal tooling eng manager tbh, just the title was something else.

Airbnb bnbair Jan 14, 2020

Still, curious which company has eng report to program manager :)