CompensationMar 15, 2018
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Eval my GOOGLE E4 offer

With MSFT for 6 years, 8years total exp. LVL62 currently (yes, I know, I suck, but ... reorgs ... ). Google came back with: 140 base 15% bonus 350k rsu 20k sign on My MSFT base is higher now .... wtf ??? I suck at system design, so that round prob didn't go over so well, if it matters.

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Umbee Mar 15, 2018

If it didn't go well how did they make an offer?

Microsoft gay4pay OP Mar 15, 2018

I didnt say it didn't went well, that is implied. I kinda said it didn't go excellent, like the coding rounds did.

Microsoft [ Mar 15, 2018

But the total comp is way higher.

Amazon JezzBefos Mar 15, 2018

Nearly a decade in experience and people don't know to look at TC over base. Sad.

Facebook public Mar 15, 2018

Not really, base is very important to many of us and why I could never work for Amazon which is sad.

Google Facebook Mar 15, 2018

Great offer, above average, especially for Seattle. In MTV the average was 145/250/no sign on.

Microsoft gay4pay OP Mar 15, 2018

lool for 8 years exp, u sure abt that ? Friend got 154k 350rsu with 5yr exp no competitive offers

Google Facebook Mar 15, 2018

L4 across US ranges from 200 to 350 (but only <10% make more than 300 in fact) with a median of 250. You got higher total comp than half of L4 at Google. Your friend got a bit more and got to 60 percentile. Consider cost of living in CA and I guess you still take home more.

Microsoft zas Mar 15, 2018

6 years sde2 is ok I think? lots of people in this band.

Microsoft HCF Mar 15, 2018

Google. No brainer. Money is not everything. Working at a dying company is worse.

Microsoft zas Mar 15, 2018

which one is dying? serious question.

Google Facebook Mar 15, 2018

Indeed. Microsoft is awesome and cares about employees times better than say super growing Amazon.

LinkedIn FDHN44 Mar 15, 2018

I have similar experience and got a E4 google offer In last April. It’s 165 Base, 500K RSU, 50k sign on, I didn’t accept it though since I got a better offer at LinkedIn.

Google Facebook Mar 15, 2018

Which level did you get at LinkedIn? Senior (analog of E4) caps at 180/300/60 sign on.

Microsoft gay4pay OP Mar 15, 2018

how many yrs exp u had ? was that initial offer or after negotiate ? what was initial ? how much did they wanna negotiate up to ?

Facebook Impact! Mar 15, 2018

Why is base so low at Google? TC is top market but base matters in mortgage affordability. Your RSU won't count.

Google 💩 poo poo Mar 15, 2018

Find a better broker. There are plenty that know how to take RSU into account, especially if you've earned it long term already.

Microsoft CwCJ71 Mar 16, 2018

Do you have any broker or mortgage lender that takes RSU into account?

Lyft jgram Mar 15, 2018

350K in RSUs is more than you'll get in 15 years as a L62.

Microsoft gay4pay OP Mar 15, 2018

Is this your first day on blind ? This is not about being rational / fair / analytical. Its about being as greedy as possible and never quite happy with anything you get.

Apple gEHy21 Mar 15, 2018

Why is your name “gay4pay”?

Microsoft gay4pay OP Mar 15, 2018

pm me your offer and find out

Microsoft Fme Mar 15, 2018

Bc he will swing both ways for $$?

Zillow Group tresxo Mar 15, 2018

Are u on H1? , by the look of things any offer wouldn't matter

Microsoft gay4pay OP Mar 15, 2018

no h1