Evaluate Apple ICT4 offer for SWE

Apr 23, 2019 16 Comments

Numbers are after negotiation, with no competing offers.

Base: 180
RSU: 160 over 4 years
Bonus: 10%
SignOn: 80
Team: Apple Media Products
YOE: 8

The recruiter said this is the best offer and I have to take or leave it. The refreshers usually make up in the long term hence the initial grant is on a lesser side.

Current TC: 220K


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TOP 16 Comments
  • Rally Health FuPayMe$$$
    This is a very good offer. I would take it if I were you.
    Apr 23, 2019 0
  • Apple shazzeb
    Hardware or Software?
    Apr 23, 2019 1
    • Apple shazzeb
      Sorry didn’t ready. I assume AMP is software.
      Apr 23, 2019
  • Ambarella MJ0604
    Is 10% bonus in the offer letter or provided verbally? I am negotiating an Apple offer so I am asking.
    Apr 23, 2019 1
    • Epsilon @boa
      I dont think that is mentioned in the offer letter. No numbers at least. They do mention that the bonus and refreshers are discretionary and based on performance!
      Apr 23, 2019
  • Goldman Sachs l33tcode
    Friend got an offer 160/220/10%/35. Had competing offers. YOE:2. Recruiter didn't mention ICT level. He had competing offers but recruiter never got to know numbers, he just told that he has competing offers,no proof was asked. This was after 1 round of negotiating
    Apr 23, 2019 1
    • Goldman Sachs l33tcode
      This was for IS&S
      Apr 23, 2019
  • Epsilon @boa
    Apr 23, 2019 1
    • Autodesk jdhxuxbf
      Bay Area
      Apr 23, 2019
  • Citrix Systems / Eng peda
    What’s your yoe?
    Apr 23, 2019 1
  • Apple srand
    I think it is good a offer. You can’t go much better than that on initial offer for ICT-4. Your comp will definitely increase over time. That been said you could push a little more on the sign on or base if you had a competing offer. OBS: there is no such a thing as 10% bonus guaranteed at Apple - it’s always discretionary and ranges from 10-20%.
    Apr 24, 2019 0
  • Base is okay, RSU is standard when no competing offer.
    Do you have a lot of unvested RSU from your current employer? You can try to use that to negotiate, ask Apple to at least match that.
    Sign on is pretty high though.
    Apr 23, 2019 0
  • Apple / Eng gtUh6$
    So your TC bump will be:
    220 -> 240 + whatever bonus
    Assuming you get 10% bonus of base, your bump will be 17%. Not bad, but you awesome either.

    And then incrementally grow as refreshers start slowly kicking in and vesting.

    It doesn’t look like a very significant bump (not having competing offers probably killed you there). But if you like the team you’re joining, I’d do it.
    Apr 23, 2019 0
  • Lam Research rektkid
    Did HR till you how much refresher you’ll be getting ?
    Apr 23, 2019 0


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