Evaluate Facebook E4 offer

Clearstream.TV / Eng JobSearch
May 24, 2019 37 Comments

3+ years of experience. 150 base, 240/4 equity. 10% yearly bonus makes it 225k total comp. no signing bonus. Menlo Park location. How much can I negotiate this? What’s top of band?

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  • Amazon / Eng bCxp50
    Pretty sure that's the default basic E4 offer. Also pretty sure that 160/300 is the normal top of band for E4. Finally, I know for a fact it can go even higher--but that will require VP approval, which also means your case needs to be really strong.

    Here's my experience negotiating with FB: like Google, they have a well-informed compensation committee. You need to go at them with data and structure your ask into a business case. Data such as:

    1.) Competing offers, especially from companies they target or recruit against (e.g. Google and direct competitors like Snap)
    2.) Interview performance (e.g. if you were borderline E5, and/or they think you're a strong hire in general)
    3.) You have demonstrated experience with a particular domain or skill set they have a strong need for (e.g. ML or Android)
    4.) Current employer/level/comp (e.g. if coming from Google or similar, you have a stronger case)

    Chances are that they will NOT ask for proof of competing offers, but your claim needs to be credible. If you tell them Google offered you $400k and you have 3 or 4 YoE (obvious L4 from a company known not to make strong offers up front), they will call your bluff. Might even undermine the credibility of your entire case.

    Now, as far as what to negotiate, standard rules apply: base is hardest. One-offs like RSUs and signing are somewhat easier.

    In any case, if your recruiter is good and thinks your case is strong, they'll work with you to try to get you as much money as they can. Talk to them. It's not their money; they want you to join. At the same time, they do this all the time so they have a pretty good idea of what will fly and what won't--if the recruiter is pushing back, it's probably not because they're actually trying to low ball (again, not their money), but because they know that whatever you're asking for isn't going to clear the committee. Some recruiters are more honest about this than others.

    Source: negotiated (and accepted) an out-of-band FB offer earlier this month.
    May 24, 2019 1
    • Clearstream.TV / Eng JobSearch
      OP
      Thanks for this 🙏
      May 24, 2019
  • Nvidia wagecuck
    Typical fb lowball offer, ask for 165 base 100K signon or tell them to kick bricks.
    May 24, 2019 7
    • Facebook / Eng
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      baldnshortmore
      Don't lol
      May 24, 2019
    • Clearstream.TV / Eng JobSearch
      OP
      What do I do then Facebook
      May 25, 2019
  • AnchorFree overtimer
    How do they decide which level to interview a person for? Yoe?
    May 24, 2019 5
    • AnchorFree / Eng 🍪 cookie
      Don't they tell you to which level you're about to be interviewed, before the interview? So it's a notification after passing everything, to which level they will want to hire you?
      May 26, 2019
    • Clearstream.TV / Eng JobSearch
      OP
      No the recruiter told me I could be e3 to e5. Based on my yoe and interview performance.
      May 26, 2019
  • Facebook / Eng QGhE38
    At least ask for sign on. This part is the easiest.
    May 24, 2019 0
  • Clearstream.TV / Eng JobSearch
    OP
    I have a competing offer with a series F unicorn. But it’s all paper money so Facebook probably won’t match right?
    May 24, 2019 5
    • LinkedIn stuffy🐷
      Pretty sure they can. They just can’t ask for current compensation in California.
      May 24, 2019
    • BBDO sxYo02
      I would mention the competing offer. Definitely don't lie about it. The worst they can say is their offer is final. (in some instances they can pull the offer if they think you're being super difficult)
      May 28, 2019
  • eBay
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    seatmore
    Should be 180 base, 320k in RSUs, 50k signing bonus (unless you’re a relard)
    May 24, 2019 2
    • Clearstream.TV / Eng JobSearch
      OP
      Bro I thought fb E4 caps out at 160 base 300 equity, 100k signing
      May 24, 2019
    • Facebook / Eng SegTree
      @JobSearch: That sounds about right.
      May 25, 2019
  • Microsoft Vbsm66
    Negotiate a 50K signing bonus
    May 24, 2019 0
  • Microsoft blind1186
    Take it.
    May 24, 2019 0
  • Airbnb New999hire
    150 base is extremely low.
    May 24, 2019 6
    • Airbnb New999hire
      FB underpays like crazy then
      May 25, 2019
    • Facebook / Eng SegTree
      Name a public company with E4 base that high.
      May 25, 2019
  • AnchorFree / Eng 🍪 cookie
    Btw there's a guy with 4yoe in a similar thread who was offered 400k-450k from few places, I'm eager to find how he does that. Maybe you should ask him too, to share the secret sauce :)
    May 26, 2019 0

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