Evaluate Facebook offer for E4

Feb 11, 2018 70 Comments

Recently cleared FB interview. Following is the package - 1. Base 140k 2. Stock 220k 3. Relocation expenses + 16k relocation bonus (relocating from India). Location Melno park. Will be relocating with wife.

Can you suggest how is the offer?

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  • Amazon
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    Don't do it, that is way too low in silicon valley. You will regret your decision. Better, try to find something in Seattle with Microsoft. Salary wise it'll work out in your favor.
    Feb 11, 2018 14
    • Amazon
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      1. I was talking about Bay Area
      2. For OP, I was suggesting around 275 TC, not 300.
      Feb 11, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng @yo
      Well adding base + stock + bonus it comes to 210k. Add to that 16k relocation bonus. Visa + air tickets + relocation cost will easily cost 10k. So that makes it roughly 236k.
      Feb 12, 2018
  • Microsoft UMbR31
    If you're moving from India to an FB L4 role, just do it. You are getting a large Corp to apply for a H1B with a decent salary. US tech companies equate all India experience to zero, so I think this is a good opportunity for you. You can always go back to your old place / similar in India if things don't work.

    Yes, the pay is slightly lower than median. But that's because people join with US experience and all Indians do after a 2 year Masters degree+experience, which in the company's perception, is better.
    Feb 11, 2018 5
    • Microsoft UMbR31
      I have friends from big 5-IIT Masters who took 'whatever job they could get in the middle of nowhere in the US in no name companies', they are all at top 5 corps after 1-2 years. Obviously once you clear that h1b lottery, a large hurdle to professional progress is removed. You must be really good if that first random job happens to be Facebook!
      Feb 11, 2018
    • Microsoft UMbR31
      Why can't that first-random-job be Microsoft tho? Is msft Redmond less likely to work out?
      Feb 11, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng @sb
    OP
    No sign in bonus :( .... Level at MS 62. No competing offer. Role is as Android developer.
    Feb 11, 2018 9
    • Microsoft / Eng @sb
      OP
      H1B
      Feb 11, 2018
    • Apple URI123
      That’s a good offer and you should take it, knowing that your interview did not go very well. Also, your experience is based in India not in US. That counts too. Don’t compare to others. Every other person is different and their numbers would differ in what they bring to the table. I would pay 25 - 40% more for similar skills if all the experience was in US. If you do well in a couple of years, things will readjust.
      Feb 11, 2018
  • Salesforce palmreader
    How do you relocate without visa?
    Feb 11, 2018 4
    • Facebook KingVegeta
      Why? Wouldn't they give you the option to relocate to London until you get your H-1B?

      Also, I didn't notice earlier that you're relocating from India. You might have a hard time getting competitive offers for leverage before moving here. Your offer is a huge step up from your current comp and is a great start either way, so congratulations and good luck!
      Feb 11, 2018
    • Oracle Nutelła
      Good luck with the visa part.
      Feb 11, 2018
  • Fitbit mahalo2
    Base can go upto 160k. Stock can go upto 300k. Can greatly increase the sign on bonus. The recruiter is selling you cheap. Go ask for more.
    Feb 11, 2018 0
  • Facebook PSC-fever
    My E4 offer in 2015dec ( I had 4 years of prior exp) : base 140k , sign-on : 15 or 20k , rsu: 165k

    With Facebook/google don’t worry about pay. If you are getting less pay to start with they will normalize it in one or two perf cycles . On the other hand if you start with very high pay , they will again normalize it in a half or two.
    Feb 11, 2018 9
    • Microsoft / Eng @sb
      OP
      @PSC-fever ... what is your take on stress level at FB? @Noogler69 did you work in FB before ?
      Feb 11, 2018
    • Google Noogler69
      I did
      Feb 12, 2018
  • Facebook KingVegeta
    It's not great, median or slightly lower for E4. Do you have no competing offers? What's the signing bonus?
    Feb 11, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Eng wavvy
    Do you have any other offers here? If not do it. You'll make more the long run. These people telling you to stay in India or "you can't afford the bay" are stupid.
    Feb 11, 2018 1
    • Microsoft / Eng @sb
      OP
      @wavvy ... how has been your experience at facebook? How is the stress level ?
      Feb 12, 2018
  • Amazon lastword
    I got the same offer for their Seattle office. Over 4 years of experience at Amazon.

    FWIW, I wasn’t even able to get them to budge on the signing bonus. My mistake was not getting some competing offers.
    Feb 11, 2018 2
    • Facebook / Eng fmlpls
      Signing bonus is the easiest to move on actually.
      Feb 11, 2018
    • Amazon lastword
      Right, that’s why I brought it up. If they’re not gonna play ball with negotiating a signing bonus, then I’m definitely not going to be able to convince them to offer more RSUs or a higher salary.
      Feb 11, 2018
  • Facebook sum41pwd
    Sounds reasonable to me, get a place in Fremont and your rent won’t be too crazy; do well your first year and your raise will be bigger if you’re on the lower end of the band. Apart from comp, are there other things you care about that you should factor in?
    Feb 11, 2018 4
    • Microsoft / Eng @sb
      OP
      I guess so. My manager name mentioned is Kevin McCray. Whats your experience ?
      Feb 11, 2018
    • Facebook sum41pwd
      It’s been great, love my manager, work is challenging and probably consumes too much of my life, but I enjoy it.
      Feb 12, 2018

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