Tech IndustryJan 28, 2020
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Evaluate Microsoft Offer Please

Location: Redmond, WA Hiring Event: Jan 17th Team: Azure Base: 135k Bonus: 10k Stocks: 9k Position: SDE2 / 61 YOE: 6 years ................................................... Current Base: 96k Bonus: 10k Current Location: Dallas,TX Any room for negotiation? Is the base lower for MSFT? #microsoft #azure #help

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Facebook zlatan123 Jan 28, 2020

Lol new grads with their lowball offers get paid more than that Negotiate hard on this one

Walmart TpNXX12 OP Jan 28, 2020

thanks any tips on negotiation. other then me talking about YOE etc. What would be a right base nowadays at Redmond / Seattle?

LinkedIn leet4yf Jan 28, 2020

levels.fyi check here. Stock can be much higher

Walmart TpNXX12 OP Jan 28, 2020

thanks checked it $135k base seems to be average. stocks can be higher though

Airbnb Moyaj Jan 28, 2020

Is that 9000 RSUs? That’s like $1.5M.

Walmart TpNXX12 OP Jan 28, 2020

$9000, super low i feel

Airbnb Moyaj Jan 28, 2020

Oh damn, sorry son. That is just...I don’t even know what to say.

Microsoft HeyAl Jan 28, 2020

Stock seems low

Walmart TpNXX12 OP Jan 28, 2020

trying to negotiate atleast $20K stocks, wondering if they will revert the offer when negotiating way over whats offered because it was a hiring event?

Microsoft HeyAl Jan 28, 2020

Possible, the HM doesn't seem to have a lot budget here if they are offering you only 9k per 4 years. Typically industry hire for L61 can get 35-50k. Some with competing offer might get 75-120k. If you accept this offer, you absolutely must be at peace with the fact that Microsoft values new grad more than industry hires. Your L59s colleagues with 0 yoe will have 75-150k of stock and 25-75k signing. If you can't be at peace with this, it will likely eat you alive from the inside over time. If you can, then great... Your new TC is still higher than your current tc. Put Microsoft on your resume and use it to jump ship in a few years.

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QaVo00 Jan 28, 2020

What is this Jan 17th event, care to elaborate?

Walmart TpNXX12 OP Jan 28, 2020

its a hiring event, recruiter contacted me via linkedin

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QaVo00 Jan 28, 2020

I got contacted recently too, but turns out it’s a separate hiring agency in Redmond (Brickred Systems)

Amazon free🍌 Jan 28, 2020

This offer seems like an insult

Amazon uQRw72 Jan 28, 2020

You should look up new grad (59) offers for Microsoft at Redmond. I looked through a few, and it looks like you're barely making just a little bit more than half of them.

Microsoft HeyAl Jan 28, 2020

Different market. Microsoft vastly overinflate new grad comp to compete against FANG for the talent pool. Many will leave to go to FANG before 3.5 years. This offer is what Microsoft actually intend to pay L61s if FANG didn't exist.

Bank of America theyknow Jan 28, 2020

Can negotiate bonus and/or stocks. How was your I terview performance, and if you dont mind, what were the things asked during interviews.

Walmart TpNXX12 OP Jan 28, 2020

it was leet code hard & medium.

Apple bogle Jan 30, 2020

were you able to solve both of those optimally? especially the LC hard?

Microsoft lubed Jan 28, 2020

Base is actually over median , not sure how you got it. Stocks can go upto 20k , if you negotiate hard

Airbnb Moyaj Jan 28, 2020

Per year or overall?

Walmart TpNXX12 OP Jan 28, 2020

so base is decent? i think its less considering cost of living in seattle

Microsoft lonez Jan 28, 2020

New grads get 120-150k signon stock... just so you know

Microsoft lonez Jan 28, 2020

Over 3.5 years

Walmart TpNXX12 OP Jan 28, 2020

wow thanks for the info didnt know that.