CompensationJun 14, 2019
Applebeffjezous

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Hi folks, i have offers from a few companies and I am considering two, can you please help me decide Amazon AWS - SDE2 Base 175K Sign on: 1st year 140k, 2nd year 104k Stock: 160 RSU’s vesting 5%, 15%, 40%, 40%. Microsoft - Sr. SDE Base 185 Sign on: 1st year 70k, 2nd year 30k Stocks: $250k vesting over 4 years, 25% each year. Current TC: 250k YoE: 5 P.S: what’s up with every single person I dealt with at Amazon being an Indian, the recruiter, the HM, every single interviewer and the client lead... wft! Where is diversity?!

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Microsoft hyfcvjp Jun 14, 2019

are you really going to make the calculate the TC for you

Apple beffjezous OP Jun 14, 2019

😂 at AWS, it’s constant, about 330k per year, at MSFT, first year is 320k, 2nd year is about 285k, but eligible for annual bonus and refreshers, which is not available at amazon

Microsoft ryzen3 Jun 14, 2019

Refreshers for 63/64 is at around 15-20k over 4 years and bonus is 15% target.

Apple aifiemlaoa Jun 14, 2019

Whats YOE?

Apple beffjezous OP Jun 14, 2019

Edited question

Apple aifiemlaoa Jun 14, 2019

Apple to amazon can be downgrade in terms of resume. Microsoft is more better. In my opinion

Apple beffjezous OP Jun 14, 2019

It is a downgrade, they were buttholes with the design questions at AWS, i told them I had no experience at all with what they are building, yet, they asked me to design it over and over again, very low level scalable search and storage design questions, i did pretty good, but, just for lack of experience they offered L5, with a salary of L6

Apple aifiemlaoa Jun 14, 2019

Lol 😂

Databricks data4u Jun 14, 2019

What kind of questions?

Apple beffjezous OP Jun 14, 2019

Don’t exactly remember tbh, I don’t even do any LC, i just study the basic algorithms :)

Apple hdjjdjsbd Jun 14, 2019

Microsoft

Okta doll$h Jun 14, 2019

Damn. That TC in Seattle!

Apple beffjezous OP Jun 14, 2019

No, in Bay Area, both offers are in bay area

Okta doll$h Jun 14, 2019

Gotcha.

Amazon HAzq58 Jun 14, 2019

Which level at msft ?

Microsoft quudhwnns Jun 14, 2019

That TvC at Amazon looks extremely high. Are you in AI? Your comp looks like Senior SDE. It is also rare Microsoft gave you senior for 5YOE. Congrats!

Apple beffjezous OP Jun 14, 2019

I am not in AI but MSFT will be in an AI team. Amazon isn’t. With amazon, i cracked the SDE3 interview, but they offered SDE2 with senior pay due to lack of experience in the specific product...

Intuit Indiv. #1 Jun 14, 2019

Is this before or after negotiating with each? If it’s after could you share initial offers?

Apple beffjezous OP Jun 14, 2019

After negotiations and showing, literally, offers from 6 total companies

Intuit Indiv. #1 Jun 14, 2019

How much have they budged up?

Discover Financial Services qwerty-/: Jun 14, 2019

Which org do you work at Apple ? And ICT4 ?

Apple beffjezous OP Jun 14, 2019

ICT3, cannot share org, will be easier to be pinned

Apple beffjezous OP Jun 14, 2019

I don’t know what’s not possible, I joined apple not too long ago, base is 185, stocks were 300k and sign on was 100