Considering a remote Argo AI offer for SWE II. Currently at Zoox.
Argo offer: average yearly TC over 4 years of $380k-$390k at $20B valuation ($200k base, $600k RSU grant, annual + sign on bonuses).
TC at Zoox is ~$200k with 2-3 yoe.
At Zoox, I really enjoy the interesting work, good WLB, and friendly environment but feeling underpaid relative to the current market. Based on my understanding, Argo would be slightly worse in these first 3 areas but I feel like the huge jump in TC outweighs those cons. Also expecting a promotion at Zoox and to be able to be remote.
I also have some offers elsewhere that are sub $300k TC (Nuro, Palantir, Amazon) but not really considering them for various reasons (down-leveling, culture/WLB, in office on the West coast).
Would love to get some advice on which option is best. How is working at Argo? What's the WLB and environment like? Odds of a successful IPO?
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WLB massively differs across orgs, and onboard vs offboard so it's hard to say. Generally worse the more important your role is to the operation of the car.
Is that valuation sustainable? If/once they IPO, will their business be strong enough to justify $20B?
If there's something we should have learned from the past months it's that the open market can be brutal. Look at Rivian for example. Some friends laughed and told me their TC was close to $800k when the stock was close to the peak. Now they probably make closer to $250-300k.
Obviously you also have to think about how you evaluate the ZARs. Open market vs 409a, and $20B vs your strike price for ZARs.
Good luck!
Argo has been sort laying low on the media/hype side of things but I think we will start ramping up and making more broadly available our ride hailing and delivery services. And once the ball starts rolling, we have many cities, two countries, and two large OEM's to scale out with.
I think it is not too hard to advocate for a role/team that fulfill these aspects - just make sure you get a good since of the hiring manager and potential teammate's personalities/mindsets. And set strong personal boundaries off the bat - if you say yes to more work, you'll keep getting more work.
Thanks for the advice regarding personal boundaries.
At least for me personally I've never had an issue, other than sometimes pushing myself too hard. That being said, my role isn't standing directly in the way of achieving autonomy, so I don't have too many people "breathing down my neck".