I have FB and Google offer. Both L4/E4 Level. Pay is similar with FB paying $10k more. Looking at what’s best for my career growth. Location is FB Seattle and Google Kirkland. I am looking for lots of career growth, fast moving, more ownership. I am leaning towards FB and I think FB Seattle is growing a lot and FB is more fast paced. Your thoughts ?
Which location? If it's Seattle, I would suggest joining FB.
For those priorities, probably Facebook.
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In the same boat here. Leaning towards FB as well. What did your offer for fb look like? Here is mine: 25k signing, 150k base 250k stocks
Don’t join google, particularly sea or kirkland. I am regretting not joining fb since day 7. Opportunities are rare, with 80k employees you won’t grow. You may grow faster at msft. I am planning to leave right after one year anniversary.
One of two things: 1. Either these posts are fake and are intended for trolling. 2. Or, there is a huge bubble called FB. I lean more towards the second. It doesnt make sense to me that any company would spend these crazy amounts on engineers with such little experience. Seems that a level 60/61 at Microsoft is earning like a Principal level (at MS) at FB. Just doesnt sound right.
I truthfully hought so too but I think the truth is No.3 MS hugely underpays engineers 60-64 compared to the rest of the market. I received several others and they were all in the ballpark.
Microsoft underpays. I had offers from FB, Google and Amazon. My Amazon SDE2 offer was ~$200k, which was the lowest. I was making ~$170k ish at Microsoft ($140k base + stock + bonus) as a newly promoted L62/SDE2
moving fast and ownership, it's fb
I see Google being better for later stages of your careers where as FB seems better starting out. I mean the team you end up on will drive a lot of that too. FB seems to pay more on average and does better at retention. Honestly in terms of ownership and moving fast Fb seems to win most of the time. Also from the outside it seems benefits at Google haven't been keeping up with FB.
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Just as a counter-example, this is my first job as a software engineer and I just got promoted to L5 in less than 2 years.
Getting promoted to L5 from L4 in 2 years at goog is not unusual
It depends on what you're working on. In general, if you join a team where the product is fully developed, you might not get much opportunities to shine because either you'll be maintaining the code by fixing bugs or adding some enhancements. If you want to grow, join a team where a lot of work has to be done.
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