Asking for a raise with competing offers
I have two offers from:
Uber
Twitch
I don’t want to leave my current role because I like my job and i’m also 20-30% in my visa/gc process at Microsoft. For those that know about the process, my PD is current. My competing offers show that i’m being paid really crappy here. I want to “vwmf” but if I knew what to do, i wouldn’t ask here.
Is there a way to talk to my manager about my payscale without screwing myself? I really don’t want to move but i also want a raise. Is this the classical “you can’t have both” answer?
By Both, I mean: being a visa slave and having higher TC without moving.
Current MS TC: 150ish
New TC: 245ish
Yoe: 1.5
GC process will take another 1.5 years
Blind, please advise on the manager part. Do i bring it up? Yes/No?
#tech #microsoft #product #help #raise
comments
I know Microsoft is different, but consider what are the downsides of your manager thinking you're a flight risk?
If you don't have a great manager, maybe you'd be heavily deprioritized for yearly rewards/bonuses?
“listen, i want to keep you, i’ll put you up for a promo and you can maybe get 160 instead of 150, but not 245. If i were you, i’d take the 245.”
At which point, i’m fucked and what do i even do? Lol. If i stay, its embarrassing.
If switching teams is trivial as it is in Google, find some internal teams that want you, get offers externally, AND THEN you can tell your manager you want to leave.
If he says no to more money you can at least fallback to switching teams without a payrise, I hope.
Best you can hope for is a fast track into a promotion, with a good bonus and/or an SSA/SCA, and that’s all under the mercy of your manager.
However, I would advice against staying at Microsoft just for the GC for multiple reasons, and assuming getting the GC will take you more than 1 year:
1) It’s harder to switch the longer you wait.
2) the Microsoft stack is not popular outside of MSFT and you’ll have an easier time adapting the sooner you gtfo.
3) the added time on restarting the GC process is probably 6-12 months, at which I would much rather spend earning way more then the current rate, because it’s not just the $ difference, but investment (with the caveat that next stock is still blue chip?)
I think all that considered then you’d be best biting the bullet and staying with a lower pay… potentially try to work out a fast track plan with your manager but I wouldn’t hold my breath thinking they will budge only because you have other offers.
I am curious though what your title is at Microsoft/Uber/Twitch with that TC. Are you a Senior Product Manager and the competing offers are also SPM roles?
My current tc has very little stock. Most of it is Base + bonus.
New TC is base + bonus + stocks.
I have a bachelors and total 1.5 yoe