Facebook E6 or Google T5?

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clampr10

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clampr10
Apr 24, 2018 55 Comments

This week got offers from Facebook and Google. Need to make a decision. Wanted opinion on certain aspects.

Offer details,
Total work experience 9years. Currently Senior SDE at Amazon (Total 430 k , thanks to stocks appreciation but targeted at 345-350)

Facebook - 210k , 960k stocks spread across 4 years
And 70k signon. I think 20% bonus. This is for E6 , which recruiter mentioned is equivalent to Senior tech lead/Principal in other firms.

Google (After facebook negotiation) - 190k base, 720k stocks 4 years monthly vest and 50k signon. 15% bonus iirc. This is T5 , senior.

Both are verbal offers and still open.

Google HR mentioned level can not be changed since hiring committe feels I need more substantial experience(Not even sure what it means).

Certainly Facebook comp seems better, however team matched in Google complements my domain expertise.

How difficult is to go from T5 to T6 in Google?

Also reason I am looking out is WlB (pulling 70hrs a week from past year), does Fb have manageable workload ?

Any idea about general accepted ramp up time in Fb before being productive for E6 ?

Thank you in advance for help.

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  • Google
    Facebook

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    Facebook
    Is that for Seattle?
    Apr 24, 2018 8
  • Facebook / Eng
    rush

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    rush
    SDE3 @9 years of experience coming in at E6 may be a bit of a stretch. Expectations are very high at E6, review cycles are 6 months, WLB is pretty bad in a lot of teams, there’s non-trivial adjustment to culture - all things that will add up to make it pretty stressful.
    Apr 24, 2018 6
    • Facebook / Eng
      rush

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      rush
      It helps if you know exactly which team you are going to because of their need for your domain expertise. If that’s not the case, it is tougher.

      I’m personally very glad I came in as E5 and then got promoted to E6 relatively quickly after proving myself. It would’ve been way more stress if I came in as E6 directly.
      Apr 25, 2018
    • Rush - how long did it take to get to e6?
      Apr 11, 2020
  • Google
    tcCd20

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    tcCd20
    Get G to match FB and take G. Wlb will be better. T6 at G and FB are equivalent from what I hear so FB expectations will be much higher.
    Apr 24, 2018 5
  • Amazon
    clampr10

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    clampr10
    OP
    Decided to go ahead with Fb E6. Reasoning being I can always later go to Google T5 or if need be come back to Amzn to L6. So not a lot of downside even if I crash and burn. On the other hand little bit of cash doesn't hurt :)
    Apr 28, 2018 3
  • Don’t come to FB for wlb, specially as an e6 new hire. You have to work hard to prove you deserve your level because you don’t have working history at FB
    Apr 24, 2018 2
    • Amazon
      clampr10

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      clampr10
      OP
      I thought interviews were sufficient to prove that I can operate at the level hence the offer. Honestly, I would have expected some time for industry laterals to settle in before the expectation to perform at high level kicks in. Though it seems Fb seems to have different expectation.
      Apr 25, 2018
    • Uber
      opi

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      opi
      You need to make a real e6 impact. this is very different from 5-6 hour great interview performance.
      Jun 7, 2020