Tech IndustryNov 22, 2019
MicrosoftKTUI83

Facebook E4 vs Microsoft 64

I have an offer from Microsoft at L64 and Facebook at level E4 . Take home for microsoft : 170k base , 50 K bonus and 125 k shares Take home for Facebook : 167k base , 50k bonus and 300 k shares Which company should I choose ? Any valuable insights would be really helpful

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Microsoft lc_is_life Nov 22, 2019

Are you not at MS already?

Microsoft wIyp54 Nov 22, 2019

Exactly!

Microsoft KTUI83 OP Nov 22, 2019

Helping out a friend

Google LzJb80 Nov 22, 2019

Microsoft doesn’t do stock refreshes like facebook does, also its a TC difference of over 40k. I’d say Facebook

Google LzJb80 Nov 22, 2019

I would take your Facebook offer to Microsoft, at 64 they should match that comp

Microsoft KTUI83 OP Nov 22, 2019

Yes the TC is a factor but level is -1 in Facebook when compared to microosft , that's the only point I m struck at ...and thanks for your reply

Dropbox duduhe Nov 22, 2019

Why is this a question

Microsoft KTUI83 OP Nov 22, 2019

Because of level difference

Facebook hybridtoo Nov 22, 2019

It will be easy to move from Facebook to Microsoft if you don’t like it, but a bit hard the other way around.

Microsoft KTUI83 OP Nov 22, 2019

Ohhh ok

Microsoft msft20 Nov 22, 2019

location? Engg PM or Engg or Non Engg?

Microsoft KTUI83 OP Nov 22, 2019

Seattle , Engg

Microsoft timtamtime Nov 22, 2019

64 can transfer to FB at E5 and sometimes E6. Can you negotiate with FB to bump you to E5? If you felt like you can easily get rehired at FB in two years - then I’d go with MSFT due to the level. If you don’t think you can easily get rehired at FB - then I agree with the above post that it’ll be easier for you to transfer to MSFT from FB and get a promo out of it in two years vs. the other way around.

Microsoft heo Nov 22, 2019

I don’t think 64 can get E6

Microsoft vTk96 Nov 23, 2019

Agree. Normally 64 can only get E4.

Microsoft pounak Nov 22, 2019

What is your priority OP , TC or career level ?

Microsoft KTUI83 OP Nov 22, 2019

Career growth

Microsoft pounak Nov 23, 2019

Well career growth is better in FB. At least that's what i heard in FB

Microsoft sleepyguy1 Nov 22, 2019

That's less than my 63 offer. Edit: my point being, I'd negotiate. my offer changed a lot during negotiations.

Microsoft KTUI83 OP Nov 22, 2019

🙃

Microsoft vTk96 Nov 22, 2019

FB E4 is definitely not a level drop from L64. Why do you think so?

Microsoft KTUI83 OP Nov 22, 2019

Because levels.fyi says 64 is equal to E5 in facebook

Microsoft vTk96 Nov 23, 2019

Levels.fyi is wrong in their FB/MS level mapping. If you look just at comp, then E4 is definitely better than L64. If you are not looking at comp, then what instead are you comparing?

Facebook YMVM33 Nov 22, 2019

If they are strong, they can get to e5 pretty quickly at fb

Microsoft pounak Nov 23, 2019

If they are strong then why not negotiate for e5 ? Because the downside is you will 50% of sign on stocks by accepting e4 instead of e5

Microsoft KTUI83 OP Nov 23, 2019

Tried negotiating , fb is ready to increase TC but not level