Facebook, Seattle vs NYC

New 0x4e
Jan 11 35 Comments

Currently in NYC, been here 1.5 years. Not super happy here. I'm young and single but I haven't really found NYC to offer a lot that I care about. Place is loud, crowded, dirty, devoid of nature. I'm not really a foodie and don't go out to bars much, watch live shows, or care about fashion. Haven't made many friends or had a lot of success dating. I've been a bit depressed because of my current job has just been going downhill since I started.

Just received confirmation I passed the FB interview. I mentioned to the recruiter I was open to other locations, I have family on the west coast and wouldn't mind going to live in Seattle for a while, plus I've been wanting to get a dog and it'll be much easier to raise one in Seattle I think. Also considering MPK but less strongly. Recruiter won't give an offer until I pick which location I want. Definite headcount open in NYC for me but apparently there's extra steps/checks to get my app over to another location. May be around 260k if I choose NY but she said that could be lower if I pick Seattle (is that true?). Level would be E4.

Want to especially get opinions from Facebookers who've worked in both offices, or just perspectives from the engineers at either office. Also knowing what teams would be available to join (and have decent WLB + managers) in either place would be helpful. I've been working as a backend product engineer but wouldn't mind trying something new especially if it's around security, infra, ML, or an open-source project.

From anyone else - should I stay in NYC and force myself to give the city another chance, or try a more relaxing lifestyle in Seattle? I can also transfer after 1 year if I have been getting good reviews.

#facebook #seattle #nyc

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TOP 35 Comments
  • Facebook punchman
    Seattle is also getting loud, crowded and dirty. If you can’t find friends or dates in NYC, don’t think it will be better in Seattle.
    Jan 11 3
    • New 0x4e
      OP
      @tomatosan how would you describe the mindset difference?
      Jan 12
    • Dropbox idkmypweva
      I have more of the NYC vibe but I wouldn’t move there because yeah it’s too crowded and dirty. I love everything else about NY though like all the food and culture and fashion. I hate Seattle. It’s not that dirty compared to NYC. The air is fresh in Seattle. I do not like the people and lack of lively activities in Seattle though. Everything is expensive like New York (10% tax) but the quality sucks. The girls in Seattle are very liberal, like the bachelor, yoga, and brunch. If you try to pay for their brunch they will get offended which is good for cheap men. Literally all my girl friends are transplants as am I. I can’t get along with local Seattlelites. They are very sheltered and “white” (I’m not) and lack ambition (the people with ambition left). If you are not white you will be discriminated against in Seattle (especially in dating). Also one thing I hate about Seattle people is they are very passive aggressive, act nice to your face but will ghost you or talk behind your back. People in NYC are more friendly and open.
      Feb 6
  • LinkedIn meowrawr
    Seattle has a lot more to offer than nyc if nature is a priority for you
    Jan 11 0
  • Microsoft SoIU22
    NYC is a paradise if you're a young single Male

    Read the book "datenomics"

    I live in seattle, dating scene sucks here if you're a Male.

    The city is pretty cool otherwise though. For a family seattle is a thousand times better.

    If you're a female, its the exact opposite. Again, read the book I recommended.
    Jan 12 1
    • New 0x4e
      OP
      I am male, I do think that finding a partner should be my top priority now that I will have a decent job. Not particularly interested in casual dating or hookups though, it seems like that is more prevalent in NYC than Seattle, but I'm speculating.
      Jan 12
  • New / Product
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    Seattle is depressing. Period.
    Jan 11 0
  • Amazon koooobe
    What are your hobbies? Where are your friends located? Do you like to hike, bike, or ski? Are you interested in finding a partner or is that not a priority? Do you like public transport or drive and explore places? Do you like 3 months of cold and disgusting snow and humid summers, or 6 months of depressing weather with 3 months of absolute perfection?

    I’ve lived in both places for a long time, my pick is easily Seattle, but totally depends on your answers to the above questions.
    Jan 11 5
    • Dropbox idkmypweva
      Dating is bad for everyone in Seattle. You will get ghosted by girls. If you’re not white or tall, as a guy forget it. I swear people in Seattle are slightly stand off-ish and racist. Telling people you are in tech and make $$$ will actually alienate you from potential dates in Seattle because the locals hate big tech and amazon. You will be turned off by # of girls that lack ambition but still ghost you.

      I’m not a guy but the situation is equally bad for me as a woman with high TC. You know women try to marry up. Lots of guys making 1/2 of what I make in Seattle and I’m afraid to emasculate them. I get non-tech guys brag about going to school and getting 100,000k TC in a couple years and I feel like I’m just better off alone.
      Feb 6
    • Amazon koooobe
      Agree with the people being standoffish and racist part haha. Thought it was just me. Despite being so liberal people here I feel are not fond of non-White folks especially those in tech
      Feb 6
  • Facebook Fypg17
    If you transfer between any of those three offices your pay won’t change. I’d insist on the same starting pay you were offered in nyc
    Jan 12 2
    • New 0x4e
      OP
      My only other offers are in NYC, if I tell them I want to go to Seattle then I'm thinking they may downgrade my offer because I have no other options there. By how much I don't know.
      Jan 12
    • Facebook Fypg17
      Maybe you can point out that you know they would give an internal transfer the same pay in either location so you’d rather get compensation out of the way before you get into the nitty gritty of location. You can say you have questions about teams and culture differences, but you have other offers so you’d like to make sure the compensation makes sense first. Best of luck!
      Jan 12
  • Etsy / Eng codemnky82
    I've lived on both. NY is a def a lot cleaner than Seattle. Lookup Seattle freeze. If nature is your jam Seattle def beat. You get more house for your money in Seattle but you probably need to buy a car so col is similar. Taxes lower in Seattle. Weather is much better in NY, but not as good as SF
    Jan 12 5
    • Facebook FANG4EVER
      Or Bellevue, which is like living in Seattle without the big city problems.
      Jan 12
    • Etsy / Eng codemnky82
      I used to work in dt. I watched someone suicide from my office via jumping roof of building across street. I can't unsee that. NY has problems but nothing like dt Seattle. If you're gonna do Seattle stay far away from dt and get a good raincoat
      Jan 13
  • Facebook / Eng uen
    Starting pay is different between NYC/MPK and SEA but once you start + transfer, pay remains same..

    Source: myself.
    Jan 12 5
    • New 0x4e
      OP
      @uen that's interesting, I was told I can't move for at least 1 year
      Jan 12
    • Facebook / Eng uen
      Yes. You can't switch team. But if you join a team that has presence in Seattle and manager is in Seattle, you can request to relocate. My manager was fully supportive and I moved to Seattle

      I don't like Seattle. If you haven't been to Seattle consider visiting before moving. I prefer bay area more
      Jan 12
  • Amazon hotchkiss
    Seattle is way cleaner, more relaxed, and the nature is beautiful. NYC is drab, dirty as shit, gross, devoid of any sort of beauty, and is overcrowded. You will be much happier in Seattle.
    Jan 12 2
    • New 0x4e
      OP
      How do you factor in the dating life? I think if I had a partner that was willing to move with me to Seattle I'd do it, but that's not the case, still have to find one.
      Jan 12
    • Etsy / Eng codemnky82
      Spend time on things you can control. Dress well, goto gym, be healthy etc
      Jan 13
  • Facebook tAGO84
    Fuck it, try it. Do something new. Live your life.
    Jan 12 0

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