CompensationFeb 14, 2019
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Folks who joined Apple as new grad PhDs

What was your initial TC in [base/4-yr RSU/perf bonus] format? My initial TC: ~200k [155k/105k/13%] Edit: Thanks for the wonderful insights, blind. Y’all will get me fired one day.

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Oracle blahbl Feb 14, 2019

Only 155k for a phd?

Apple industry OP Feb 14, 2019

Is 155k base low for new grad phds at apple?

Cisco lwac86 Feb 14, 2019

My friend with masters has 160 base. New grad.

Microsoft Girlfriend Feb 14, 2019

Oof, I was a phd intern @ $108 base pay

Oracle blahbl Feb 14, 2019

How long did you do internship for? Just a couple of months right

Microsoft Girlfriend Feb 14, 2019

Yeah, and I made $22,000 per month with overtime.

Apple sjsbdwqaii Feb 14, 2019

HW or SW?

Apple industry OP Feb 14, 2019

I am in SW

Microsoft vMEa72jdje Feb 15, 2019

Was offered 200K TC 5 years ago

Apple industry OP Feb 15, 2019

Interesting, did you have any work experience before joining? And was your PhD in a relevant field?

Microsoft Doink Feb 18, 2019

I started at msft 4 years ago post PhD with a TC of $152k without any competing offers.

Amazon newton12 Feb 18, 2019

Wow this is really low. I made this much with my first job and only an undergrad. What gives?

Apple industry OP Feb 18, 2019

Not sure if you are serious or trolling with all the high TC posts on blind these days

Zillow Group YSpf84 Feb 18, 2019

Ya crazy low. I was a high school drop out drug addict prostitute and made 180k base at Apple

Google Urs Feb 18, 2019

Dude this is low. Masters are getting more. Go back and renegotiate

Apple industry OP Feb 18, 2019

Is it even possible to renegotiate?

Google Urs Feb 18, 2019

Everything is possible before you join. If you have a manager tell them that you talked to your friends and found that your compensation is very low. Strategy #2: go get a competing FANG offer and use that to beat them over the head with.

Google seller Feb 18, 2019

These numbers are super low... undergrads are getting 220K TC at G and FB and I've heard of 300K PhD offers at both

Apple industry OP Feb 18, 2019

Are the folks who get 220k and 300k outliers? Or are they the median? I am not a superstar so I will be happy if I am not being paid below the median.

Facebook onika Feb 18, 2019

300k is definitely an outlier at both FB and Google for PhD. Typical is $240k.

Facebook onika Feb 18, 2019

Your TC is definitely low for a 4. Problem is the RSUs.

Apple industry OP Feb 18, 2019

Low for a 4? What do you mean? ICT 4? I am at ICT3.

Facebook onika Feb 18, 2019

Not sure how levels correspond at Apple but I mean IC4. If you are an IC3, then you are not underpaid rather you are underleveled. PhDs are supposed to start at 4.

Apple wxGV41 Feb 18, 2019

That seems low, but they’ll take care of you year after year. You’ll be fine, focus on doing great and the compensation will follow

Apple industry OP Feb 18, 2019

I see. What’s the typical offer for a new grad PhD with 0 yoe coming in at ICT3?