Auto IndustryJan 10, 2020

Ford offer (Negotiation recommendations)

Ford Offer- Team- Manufacturing Engineering Lvl- 7 Base- 96k Relocation benefits for me and spouse. No signing bonus & No stocks Experience- 3 yrs in automotive plus Masters What should I counter with?

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Nissan Krnk Jan 10, 2020

What is your current TC at GM? And where would you relocate?

General Motors engineer0 OP Jan 10, 2020

Going from Texas to Michigan. Current TC 88k

Nissan Krnk Jan 10, 2020

So HQ, I am guessing? Offer is pretty good for MI, although I think you could counter and add few K more. Think also additional perks we tend to have in auto industry - vacation days during shutdown, free car or a lease dirt cheap, and finally, bonus. Will you get any of that, and do you have already some of it with GM?

General Motors engineer0 OP Jan 10, 2020

Yes! The offer is good. My friend who joined at L6 last year joined at 90k and got 10k signing bonus. I expected some bonus in the offer and not to see that was little surprising.

Ford 8cyl Jan 10, 2020

You should definitely ask for joining bonus. Not sure how levels work for manufacturing engineering roles but check with HR and see if they can upgrade you to GSR8 (the next level after GSR8 is LL6 which is for supervisors, in future if you want to transition to supervisor role you should be a GSR8 employee to apply). There should be an annual bonus target in your offer, you can negotiate on that. Usually they offer 10 paid leaves and 10 sick/personal leaves, but I’ve heard people negotiating and paid leaves.

General Motors engineer0 OP Jan 11, 2020

Since you're working at Ford, what do you think should be the signing bonus amount that I can ask? Any idea? I'll try and negotiate on the PTOs, I don't think they'll upgrade me to GSR8.

Ford 8cyl Jan 11, 2020

I think 10k should be doable.

Panasonic USA jqpd💡 Jan 11, 2020

Offer is very good. You can try for sign on if possible, otherwise top offer.

General Motors engineer0 OP Jan 11, 2020

Alright thanks. I'm expecting another offer from Faurecia. Let's see what they offer.

Ford mor8y Jan 12, 2020

Joined Ford after grad school. Base 100k, relocation plus 10k, 15 vacation days plus standard sick/personal days. You have some room to negotiate. Competing offer will help

Daimler Ha@@@ Jan 13, 2020

What school?whats your GSR?

General Motors engineer0 OP Jan 13, 2020

UTAustin. GSR7.

Black Sesame Technologies mYgi63 Jan 13, 2020

Michigan is boring...

General Motors engineer0 OP Jan 13, 2020

Ermm.. not so encouraging..

Cummins mechie Jan 13, 2020

Are you an international student? I had heard ford does not take internationals for direct hire

General Motors engineer0 OP Jan 13, 2020

Yes I am. They would transfer my H1B

Cummins mechie Jan 13, 2020

Awesome. I am hoping to make a move into the auto industry.

General Motors rAIF33 Jan 13, 2020

That’s a good offer. I’m at that pay now (and hopefully that grade next month) after 6.5 YOE, also with MS. Unlikely to be negotiating room.

Toyota oqh324 Jan 13, 2020

Change to Toyota for better pay, TC 200k 3yoe in low CoL. Better cars too.

General Motors engineer0 OP Jan 13, 2020

Lol. True. But I'll stick to Ford for now

Daimler Ha@@@ Jan 13, 2020

Whats your base at Toyota?

AVL FCH0P!N Jan 13, 2020

Is it true, people are making 6 figures or close here in MI?

Ford 8cyl Jan 13, 2020

Yes, but mostly for software roles.

AVL FCH0P!N Jan 13, 2020

Fak. HW sucks, I need to jump ship!