This year marks the 21st year of my career. Never have I seriously consider quitting before I find a new job until today. I found myself working with a non-technical scrum master who wants to be looped in on everything, who probably suffer a little bit of "small d*ck syndrome", a manager who believes being the direct line manager if they join the sprint retrospective, the engineers may be uncomfortable to bring up issues, and being the PM one should not talk to the engineers as it crosses some sort of hierarchy, and the scrum master pulling this "rule" as the Bible when it suits them. I am naturally a techie dislike these political games or turf walls when it's not against external groups! The mentality here feels more like we are in the 20th century. But I have only joined less than a year, if I were to quit now, #1 - I feel like a quitter, that damages my own confidence, #2 - it prob looks bad on my resume. Any thoughts? Thanks for listening, at the very least... 😖
Start looking for a new role.
You are not a quitter, after 21 yoe your shit-radar is solid and as a wise man/woman you know better than waste time on idiots.
Thank you for your kind words. 😌
It won’t look bad on your resume either
Search for a new job and have a talk with the manager. Letting him/her know that you might quit, if nothing changes.
Very poor advice. Once you give an ultimatum like this, the manager will look for a replacement and kick you out at the first opportunity. What if you don’t have another job lined up? You’ll get desperate and pick the first job that comes your way and repeat the cycle?
Not every manager have this much power. Plus it's usually financially more beneficial to get fired than to leave. If your going to quit anyway, it doesn't hurt to come clean and see if things can change.
Two things I've learned about when to move on from experience: 1. Give it a little bit of time, but not too much. If you still feel like you should quit for a solid 3 to 6 months then it's probably time to do it. 2. A great way to frame quiting is to ask yourself, "If I quit and needed to get back to where I am now, what would I need to do?" You'll most likely find that getting back is easier than it may feel like in the moment.
Thanks, great advice! I will certainly keep that in mind.
We'll there's no harm in started interviewing right? You might as well end up with a higher TC too. Have this card up your sleeve.
You might want to take a deep breath and cool your head first. I can't even make any sense of what your issue even is.
Okay I'm going to provide a bit of perspective, from a non-tech who had to work and manage multiple departments and teams. So when I had to regularly make reports to executive team o. Developments or got called in because of people under me were having issues working together, blaming eachother on deadlines, miscommunication etc... I started asking my team's top to bottom to CC me/add me to sub groups/chats. 90% of the time I would never even reply. It was never to micro manage or try to deal with hierarchy issues, but rather when there is conflict or a deadline I can see who's struggling and allocate necesst resources to areas that are struggling. On a Macro perspective I don't see the issue to what this person is doing, and sometimes people tend to be terrible at non-tech macro management and it comes off as hierarchy political nonsense. Most of the time it was me defending my team and telling my bosses that they were being unreasonable and actually defending my team, and because I was looped in every step of the way I knew when to get them extensions and when to ask for additional people to be transfered in. I am not a tech genius, but I am able to see when someone on my team doesn't understand something or when they are overworked/overwhelmed and am able to help get them through that. Because that's the reason I'm there in the first place, not to tell you how to do your job, but help you do it better and make sure that you aren't getting screwed constantly by upper management. He may be doing all of this, but is not communicating this to you all, which is poor on his part, but I would discuss it with him/her. If he is anygood at his role critique of this will force self-examination and possible resolve your frustrations.
Wow...be my manager pls.
The day building and managing 14000 people with barely 6 months to scale from 0 to max, is a translatable metric for Microsoft to give me an interview. I would gladly be your manager haha.
Do what you feel is right, and ofc think of what you are going to do next!