Full stack Dev TC

Nov 2, 2018 50 Comments

I am a Microsoft full stack developer (ASP.NET C# SQL-Server MVC) contracting at mostly big companies with over 20 YOE. I am making $85/hr W-2 with no bennies. This is the most I’ve ever made and usually 130k is a good year. Not gonna lie, my field is flooded with H-1Bs.

I live in SoCal and see new grads here on BLIND with starting TC equal to mine even at non-FANGS in the midwest. I am even seeing $60/hr in places like Phoenix for shit enterprise work that I do.

I feel like the MSFT stack is the new COBOL and I might as well get used to low pay unless H-1Bs are banned and market forces of supply and demand prevail. I even went back to get a Masters in IS so that I could maybe teach on the side and I constantly troll Upwork for shit gigs without much luck.

Any gray-beards out there making even close to 200k in the enterprise doing coding? Even leads here in SoCal top out at $150k.

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  • Microsoft gfba68
    Why are you stuck on ASP.net? Plenty of places using .net core coupled with something modern like Angular and typescript on the client paying $200k+. You can keep C#.
    Nov 2, 2018 2
    • Boeing / Eng
      :&

      Boeing Eng

      BIO
      Give me all your puzzles
      :&more
      Listen to this dude, .net is still technically modern
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Boeing shamojo
      OP
      Thx, Angular is a stack of its own IMHO but I am seeing reqs for that and Core and Azure not paying much more.
      Nov 2, 2018
  • Tango Health / Eng WaterColor
    You work on ASP.shit and still complain about H1-B snatching your job. You are already paid higher than you are worth. Get a life and before that fill your head with something less shitty.
    Nov 2, 2018 5
    • New / Eng SiliconBum
      Be less judgemental and toxic. Thanks.
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Verizon aOOC32
      Thank you, is it so hard to provide some actual and less douchey insight?
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
    It's no surprise that devs working in ASP.net earn jack $hit

    Learn a newer stack
    Nov 2, 2018 0
  • New / Eng
    RightBrain

    New Eng

    PRE
    Google
    RightBrainmore
    I am depressed by this post.. I am a recent grad and unfortunately i have to work on .net stack for my current company.. I learned .net very well and thought this as my main career path.

    But by reading all these comments and this post.. i feel like i am on a wrong path.

    Any guidance will be highly appreciated.

    My background- Masters in CS, 1 yoe

    Should i shift to java or learn azure and move on to cloud ?
    Nov 2, 2018 5
    • Verizon aOOC32
      My stacks are what the business needs, and what they pay me for. When the requirements require something in the .net sphere, guess what, that’s what I’ll do. And guess what, when I need to know something else, they pay my way to learn it. Ignore the BS from some of these posts. It’s like the same people that think WinForms are dead lol. Just cause it’s not in your projects current scope, doesn’t mean it’s not in countless others.

      You’ll do just fine.
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Verizon aOOC32
      Also like to add, this type of stuff comes and goes, and then comes back again. Someone asking these types of questions already is probably going to go far in my book.

      It means you’re aware you can’t be stagnant.
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Wayfair addA30
    wtf is a asp?

    SQL Server isn't supported by any major cloud providers and Microsoft barely supports it in Azure.

    You have skills that aren't worth top dollar. Learn new skills.
    Nov 2, 2018 5
    • Boeing RudyTorren
      SQL-Server drives all the other shit that MSFT sells like BizTalk and Dynamics. And for a full stack dev it doesn’t really matter because I have coded against Oracle and other dbs.

      But I can’t see how a move to another stack like MEAN would help me get high paying gigs in corporate IT.
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Verizon aOOC32
      I’m pretty sure sql server is supported in AWS
      Nov 2, 2018
  • SpaceX uevh5
    Most comments here are bullshit. I've been using the Microsoft stack exclusively for 20+ years. My current TC is $320k. Before that at SpaceX was $250k. Was making $150k at noname companies. Of course my UI is spiked with Angular and React sometimes even node.js but under it is .NET and MS stack all the way.
    Nov 2, 2018 3
    • New / Eng
      RightBrain

      New Eng

      PRE
      Google
      RightBrainmore
      So spacex is using .net .. wow.. just wondering if its for spacex website or any internal application?
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Boeing RudyTorren
      I had a SpaceX phone interview for a .NET position a few years ago and the manager was a douche who really badgered me about linked lists. I heard it was a sweatshop.
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Amazon LoanerBadg
    If you have 20 years of experience and is only comfortable working with one stack, YOU are the problem. Not the H1Bs or the new college grads. Google pays those new grads that much because those Engineers can quickly pickup and work in whatever the fucking stack is required for the project.
    Nov 2, 2018 0
  • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
    @OP Lol all of the tech you're mentioning was hot about 15 years ago, except Java. You're so out of the loop it's no wonder your TC sucks

    Since you seem to be misinformed, here is a list of currently in-demand tech:

    Languages and frameworks:

    Python (Django and Flask for web, scikit-learn and numpy for ML), JavaScript ES6 (preferably with React, Vue.js or Angular), Node.js (with Express.js knowledge, since most Node.js server frameworks are built on that), Ruby on Rails (popular with web startups), and Scala, Java 10 (Sparq and Hadoop for data engineering), and C++14 only at mega companies like Bloomberg and Google.

    Databases:

    PostgreSQL, MySQL, MongoDb (popular but garbage)

    Caches:

    Redis, MemCache, MemSQL, others
    Nov 2, 2018 3
    • Bloomberg / Eng iVX372
      SWE jobs in the Bay are full of this tech. The vast majority of dev jobs in SV are in open source tech, because that is generally the best tech available for common use cases
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Amazon LoanerBadg
      Anyone who claims to know what the hot frameworks are clearly biased.
      Nov 2, 2018
  • Google / Eng rRPD43
    Learn a new stack bro
    Nov 2, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Onfrsxn
    College hires get paid well because they don't know asp.net lol
    Nov 2, 2018 0

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