Tech IndustryDec 7, 2017
SalesforceCareer-exp

Getting that first interview at facebook or google

I am seeing lot of roles which match 100% with the job description and I am not getting any traction at these two companies. Have tried referrals at Google but no movement past the first contract resume review recruiter. As I can only get so many referrals I have begun refining resume key words using sites like jobscan to optimize The resume to get past ATS screens. I have 12 plus years process improvement experience with lean six sigma training, an MS and MBA from top 10 schools. 6 plus yrs engineering experience These are role titles like process excellence manager, smb tech platform manager, operations manager etc. Not sure If i need to start cold emailing people using linked in to get traction at these two companies. Any advice?

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Salesforce Career-exp OP Dec 7, 2017

Thanks user-824

HPE WCmF21 Dec 7, 2017

What level? Usually the senior roles almost always require a referral. If you are Sr. Manager or above it also helps getting an intro a VP or Director

HPE WCmF21 Dec 7, 2017

What level? Usually the senior roles almost always require a referral. If you are Sr. Manager or above it also helps getting an intro a VP or Director

Salesforce Career-exp OP Dec 7, 2017

This is a manager level role typically also no connections at VP or dir levels so basically its regular application channel

HPE WCmF21 Dec 7, 2017

Then get a friend to refer you internally. It almost increases your chances infinitely.

eBay seat Dec 7, 2017

Talk to a recruiter

Salesforce Career-exp OP Dec 7, 2017

Seat and wcmf21 have tried both recruiter chat and friend referrals, 90% cases get back a thanks but we decided to proceed with others from the contract recruiter for a 100% line by line fit. Either they have other unlisted criteria or I am reading this fit wrong . Anyways will keep pushing and see. I Interestingly in 10% cases it has gone to first round for a bulk recruitment type role such as the first post mba pm role at google or the market strategist role at facebook or the sales program manager role at facebook. These are not what I would have said are 100% fit with my past roles. What baffles me is the lack of success getting to a first round in places where i have exact experience.

HPE WCmF21 Dec 7, 2017

Alas career-exp it seems like you are experiencing what other mid career folks go through. The manager and director roles typically are given to internal company people. As an example I went through three ops at SFDC for Sr. Director/VP roles only to be told that I was out after a couple of rounds. At least two of them i found out that internal candidates moved in and the third was something way to random. Unfortunately there is a vagueness to who actually moves forward. Most of the senior roles are decided on qualitative criteria. Believe it not you will experience the same thing even at undesirable companies. A friend was trying to get FB attention for a director role and after 2 years of trying he gave up. About 6 months ago he was referred to the top guy there and look and behold he is a director there for last 5 months! So bottom line ... Welcome to Sr. Mgr to Sr. Director club. Now your job searches will take much longer and you will get vague reasons why you didn't make it. In the end give it your best, if it happens it does otherwise enjoy the CRM ride to $200 (unless of course you want trade places with me and ride HPE to $0)

Salesforce Career-exp OP Dec 7, 2017

Wcmf21 thanks so much for the detailed response, good to hear this is not a unique issue. Ya looks like internal growth and potentially transitioning to these when there is a recruiter pull might be the only way, will keep applying and see where it gets.

Rubicon Project yoyo77 Dec 11, 2017

Y aren’t u happy at salesforce?

Salesforce Career-exp OP Dec 11, 2017

No It is a great company. For some of the op excellence work not sure it is the right place though. Also From a comp perspective though not as competitive with fb and google and I want to buy a home 😀