Ghosting my job - Starting a new job without quitting

Nov 23, 2019 88 Comments

So I work for a small startup in CA (no longer with Yahoo) and executive management has lied to us, ignores our technical suggestions and blames us when their ideas break things, and I’m pretty sure has commited investor and client fraud. All of engineering is leaving, but they have no clue, YET. We also all work remote.

So here is a crazy thought expiriment. I plan to find a new job in the next month or two (Holiday slows things down). When I have secured new employment I will tell my fellow coworkers I am leaving in 2 weeks. On my final day I will return my computer to our office. I will then start my new job and wait for management to discover I no longer respond to any communication. I estimate I could possibly go 2-4 weeks before they realize I am gone. They have very bad track record with actually laying people off, so I can see me still being “employed” anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months. At some point they will have to fire me, but curious as to how long that will take.

I am okay with screwing upper management and I would make sure my current coworkers were aware of what I was doing - ghosting my job. I NEVER will work for anyone in upper management again.

Thoughts? Has anyone done this? Have you heard of it being done?

comments

Want to comment? LOG IN or SIGN UP
TOP 88 Comments
  • Amazon D)(66WQ
    If you signed an employment contract with either company you can and will be liable in court for dual employment and potential IP leakage. You would be the scape goat for all that’s wrong with the startup and will be ruined. Don’t experiment like this
    Nov 23, 2019 9
    • Criteo HXiI85
      Don't put yourself at risk for the sake of retribution. You risk dragging this along with you for much longer rather than simply enjoying your time after moving on.
      Nov 24, 2019
    • Microsoft dUKM75
      Yep. High road.
      Nov 24, 2019
  • This is the equivalent of two children behaving badly, and one of them shouting "he started it." I send both kids to time out when that happens.
    This experiment has a potential professional cost to you that's too high to pay. I know of businesses that can be lenient, but then decide to make an example of someone. It might be you.
    Anyway, you should do the right thing even when it's hard.
    Nov 23, 2019 9
    • OP
      lol they really did. I’m SO tired of working for crooks.
      Nov 23, 2019
    • I hope you find another job ASAP
      Nov 23, 2019
  • Microsoft redflagged
    No problem with your approach. This is considered job abandonment and has well established legal precedent. If you simply stop “going into work” which in your case is remote so you stop responding, then the previous poster’s concerns don’t apply.

    Send back any company stuff, don’t log in again, and you’ve legally abandoned the job (ghosted it, in millennial parlance). It’s their problem, not yours, to notice and give a shit.

    Let us know how you fare. I’m rooting for you!

    Edit to add: subsequent responses indicate low degrees of confidence and an over abundance of caution. Reputation and the like are bullshit. Employers in CA are super cautious about negative references. They will only confirm employment dates and your last job title. You could burn a bridge with a thousand pounds of thermite and unless you are at an executive level, it will disappear like last week’s fart. Nothing to worry about.
    Nov 23, 2019 4
    • Microsoft redflagged
      Where? No one gives a shit.
      Nov 24, 2019
    • This is very refreshing to read! Thank you. I fucking hate corporate America these days. This is the truth I needed to hear.
      Jan 8
  • IBM 0E0E0E
    Most of your reply seems like "They're worse" "My lawyer blah blah"...

    1. Just because someone is bad, doesn't mean you should follow suit and match or progress to their level.

    2. Just assume the company you work for have better lawyers than yours. I think you're just thinking of the best case scenarios possible rather than worst. Also in legal cases, it's really not about what you've done but what you SEEM to have done.

    Just say you quit and leave... The best thing you can do is quit and never talk to those people again. Just focus on your own success.
    Nov 23, 2019 9
    • OP
      I’m actually most interested in “I did this and I was screwed” or “I did this and was sued” or “I know a person and it didn’t turn out well” - Most of what I hear is fear of being sued, worries about reputation and professionalism, and appeals to be the better person. Most people’s responses boil down to fears and emotions and I was just curious if folks had any hard data.
      Nov 24, 2019
    • Amazon D)(66WQ
      Here, you could have searched for this. Knowing you’re doing this on purpose and will burn bridges you should expect a lawsuit. In your case it won’t be a mistake it will be you taking advantage of them and it will make them pursue you even more than if just an accident.

      https://woman.thenest.com/can-old-employer-money-back-overpaid-after-left-19381.html
      Nov 24, 2019
  • Microsoft redflagged
    You people are being chumps. Look it up. Every VC and founder will fuck your over if need be. There is a long-standing business theory that it takes a degree of psychopath to be a founder, because you fuck with people every day. Just look at WeWork. Neumann takes a billion dollars and 2400 of you chumps get the axe. And I bet hundreds of them were defending WeWork and Neumann right up to that moment. And dozens still do! Stockholm Syndrome. Look it up.
    Nov 23, 2019 3
    • Microsoft redflagged
      Do you think you have a reputation? Do you think working for some Bay Area startup as a five year guy makes you special? Guess what, you don’t actually have a reputation. Elon Musk has one. Influencers on Insta or YT have one. You in fact don’t. Unless you’re the guy who wrote the Google anti diversity manifesto, then you’re are an anonymous cog and no one cares.

      This is how founders fuck people over. You care about this upstanding reputation, but the positive reputation among founders is earned by HOW MUCH they fucked over people like you. They laugh and clink champagne glasses together talking about how they came out of a death spiral with $15M equity intact. You care about this illusion of a “reputation” as you sank with the ship. Chump.
      Nov 23, 2019
    • Workday 7bPtHZ
      I'm referring to the part about staying loyal to the company until you're fired, at least doing your work and not posting anything negative online. Even after you leave, no need to post anything negative online or future employers will likely look.

      I agree that founders have to be ruthless and intelligent, but that doesn't mean we are able to act differently. Keep your head on straight.
      Nov 23, 2019
  • Expedia Group %%^%%
    Your professional integrity is what makes you valuable. At some point this kind of behavior is likely to catch up to you. You don't want that in your past.
    Nov 23, 2019 1
    • OP
      With the fraud I have seen take place, if I were to delete all of their data it would fall in the bounds of “professional integrity” - I plan to go to the press anonymously about the illegal portions I have seen once coworkers are clear of this clusterfuck.
      Nov 23, 2019
  • Workday 7bPtHZ
    One of your co workers will rat you out. Not even on purpose, it's just a secret they are not used to keeping and someone will let it slip that they are preparing for your departure.

    I think you underestimate the degree to which people stop caring about you once you tell them your relationship with them is ending as well. I guarantee half your co workers are nice to your face but don't care about you at all. That's just how it works.

    It's kind of disappointing that nobody else is willing to tell you this on Blind.

    You could certainly try it, knowing that worst case scenario is you get fired without notice one day, but I don't see why you'd want to do that.

    "Revenge" like this is not going to be fulfilling. Just leave immediately or give two weeks notice like a normal person.
    Nov 23, 2019 3
    • OP
      Sounds like you have had some shitty coworkers. The folks I am
      working with I have worked with at different places for over a decade. I know them pretty well and expect to work with them again at some point. Even if they let slip the worst case is I don’t get my 2 weeks. Even if I give my two weeks my employer isn’t obligated to wait before releasing me early from employment.

      And the two weeks notice is NEVER in favor of the employee it only benefits the employer.
      Nov 23, 2019
    • Workday 7bPtHZ
      I personally love giving two weeks notice. Then I don't do shit for two weeks. I could send my files to my replacement in an hour, give them an overview of my projects in 2 hours. Otherwise, it's just internet browsing and hanging out with people before I go.

      I could leave instantly as well. Not an issue.
      Nov 23, 2019
  • OP
    On a separate note I am intrigued by how we as employees are absolutely convinced we must give a minimum of 2 weeks notice to employers before leaving. But when the tables are turned we are fired, laid off, downsized with no notice. Immediate and unexpected. Companies have us trains so well.
    Nov 23, 2019 1
    • Microsoft redflagged
      I posted the same thing last week. The two week notice is bullshit. They will lay you of on Monday before Christmas and not give one shit. Don’t be a chump. Look it up.
      Nov 23, 2019
  • Adobe CSpc08
    You don't have to give notice right? You can just quit immediately. That is also good enough. And also it's a small world. The management of that startup can also leave and join your new company as your manager. This has happened with someone I know. Be careful
    Nov 23, 2019 3
    • Adobe CSpc08
      If you're so dead set on doing this, then good luck. I fervently hope you don't face grave consequences
      Nov 23, 2019
    • OP
      At the very least it has been a fun and therapeutic thought exercise. Events may work out such that I don’t go ahead with my plan, but I like to be prepared.
      Nov 23, 2019
  • New XoAY48
    Techlead (Ex-google) got fired for monetizing YouTube videos. Do you want that with new company? They may not know. If they know, no one will standby you. You will be fired.
    Nov 23, 2019 3
    • Weedmaps AUFy44
      Do people really believe that explanation?
      Nov 23, 2019
    • New XoAY48
      Oh you don’t know YouTuber techlead. That’s fine. Basically, every offer letter clearly says ‘you can’t work at other place ‘. Even as a youtuber (face book fired a youtuber )
      Nov 24, 2019

Salary
Comparison

    Real time salary information from verified employees