Good time to join Snap Inc (Snapchat) as PM?

Hi I am seeing quite some PM positions open in Snap Inc with interesting job description. I am currently a product manager in Amazon (2.75 yrs in Amazon) but not too happy here (stocks are the only motivation). Internal switches have become almost impossible with the hiring freeze in Amazon, so joining another team is out of option. Should I be bothered with the layoffs and the bad reputation Snap got? Do you think the company will get into more pathetic state going ahead? I don’t want to escape one hell hole to land into another and fear firing at all times but don’t want to miss a good opportunity either. Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

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Microsoft typo- May 17, 2018

Sorry for being off topic but what hiring freeze? I just applied for a dev position in Amazon, is that why I haven't heard back? Google and others were interested so I assumed Amazon would be as well.

Amazon Ellie: OP May 18, 2018

It’s just the number of people Amazon is hiring has reduced. If the position is listed then they will interview too.

Yahoo Lord Vader May 17, 2018

Don't. Snap is a dying company

Amazon BezzJefof May 17, 2018

Says the Yahoo employee...

Yahoo Lord Vader May 17, 2018

Except that I don't work for Yahoo for a few years already.. ;)

Cisco zGcY85 May 17, 2018

Maybe I’m just too old and not the target market but I don’t get the hype around Snapchat. I’ve used it sparingly and the constant UI/UX changes annoy the fuck outta me. Let alone ads and stuff from sponsored partners or whatever. If I’m gonna send a pic to someone I’ll just text it.

Amazon AjlB80 May 17, 2018

I think the new generation wants to send pics to people they don't know

Uber ͡🎆🎆🎆 May 17, 2018

Never a good time to join snap

Amazon RCMMT May 17, 2018

I would say no: Snap employees, are you happy working there (Tech Lounge) https://us.teamblind.com/s/4nGhHVzm

Snapchat 8jkl42 May 17, 2018

I am very happy working here. DM if you have questions/would like to know more.

Snapchat Realreal May 18, 2018

You must be 1 of the rare ones from 2014 with $20M in equity... sorry dude but I gotta b honest. It’s a shit show. Stay away. What you read in the press is not accurate, it’s way worse in reality

Snapchat FFNb38 May 18, 2018

Agree stay away

Snapchat arrrrr May 17, 2018

I wouldn’t recommend joining.. there are so many other options out there. Unless you are passionate about the product to be willing to bear some pain, I would look elsewhere.

Snapchat wHlr38 May 17, 2018

I believe in Snap in the long term. There are problems, but the media can be pretty sensationalist. Products are actually cool. You have nothing to lose if you apply. Get a better sense of what it’s like to work here from the team.

Snapchat MIVM25 May 17, 2018

+1 I’m happy here. There are challenges and we are turning things around from a culture perspective

Amazon mrbro May 17, 2018

I recently joined Snap from Amazon. I also think they have a good long term strategy. I do think Amazon is much less risky. If you do decide to come, make sure you negotiate a good sign in bonus, because they have no criteria for promoting or firing people The good thing is, this is still kind of a startup, so plenty of opportunities to shine

Twitter OjcK32 May 18, 2018

Did you join seattle office ? I was told there is no sign on bonus.

Amazon mrbro May 18, 2018

Well if you have the offer in hand it is your job to negotiate what is best for you

Snapchat Sunburst May 17, 2018

Very happy at Snap. There's lots of opportunities to own big chunks of the product or process because it's still pretty startup-ish. There's a real effort to turn the culture and performance feedback process around. It was listed as the number 1 goal for leadership this year. The long term strategy makes sense to me, the short term is a bit scarier though

Snapchat Who?! May 19, 2018

Lies This dude is probably one of Evans(or worse imran who’s the joker running ads) flunkies in design with 20m in stock desperate to not let it drop below 10% of its initial value. That would still be 2x more than what there fuckers can get on their merit outside. So he’s lying and misleading you here.

Snapchat Sunburst May 19, 2018

Erh... Nope. Fairly new. Not sure what misleading gains me. Nothing posted here will raise the stock so I'm actually gaining nothing