Google (L4 SWE): - TC: 242.5k without sign-on, 282.5k with - base: 150k + 15% bonus - equity: 280k - sign on: 40k - monthly vesting schedule - better match for languages/technologies used - downlevel...although perhaps this might aid in WLB... Facebook (IC5 - NOT E5 - Solutions Engineer): - TC: 245.5k without sign-on, 280.5k with - base: 170k + 15% bonus - stock: 200k - sign on: 35k - better team/manager match - quarterly vesting schedule - higher level...but not SWE ladder Austin, TX for both. Facebook's equity is low because IC5 receive less of it than their E5 (SWE) counterparts, so refreshers will take a hit when compared to google. I'm concerned with career growth and WLB (is this contradictory?)...my impression is that I'll have more growth potential at FB, from what I've read about promotions at G taking ages. I plan to hustle regardless (won't be resting and vesting) but I also am protective of my work life balance. I'm stuck. What does Blind think? What would you all do? TC: 210k; 6 YOE
Bay Area?
Austin, will add this to the post
If you plan to hustle and already have senior potential, you should be able to get promoted at Google fairly quickly. Probably quicker than making 6 at FB I would go with G.
E5 to E6 at Facebook is tough to crack to, so it’s kinda a wash between the two in terms of promotion velocity.
True. Like I mentioned above, I hadn’t considered that fb would be at a terminal level too, so promos would be equal in difficulty in all likelihood. Much appreciated
It's not E5, it's IC5 fyi
I'm not sure you want to take the title hit going into solutions engineering.
Is the title difference that drastic? Would it be more difficult to go from a solutions engineer back to a SWE in the future?
Yes, dont mess with career like this.
Google Austin is in downtown. Facebook is in domain in the north. Depend on your lifestyle and traffic is not good in Austin.
They’re neighbors, both are downtown. Buildings are right across one another
Facebook and Google are next to each other in Downtown Austin.
Ordinarily, I’d have said Facebook due to TC and growth opportunities at the cost of WLB (not great ‘in general’, compared to Google), but Solutions Engg vs SWE makes it a no-brainer. Google it is.
Should divide sign on over 4 years in the TC calculation IMO. Also I don't think L4 is a downlevel for someone with 6 yoe. That's pretty typical. L5 would be unusual. If it's me I definitely take G for the SWE ladder. If promotion does prove to be a pain, maybe you can jump to FB at E5 later. (I'm assuming they will have more SWE in Austin at some point)
Wow that’s really high TC for Austin :O
That’s good to hear 😁 I couldn’t tell if they were pulling my leg when saying that, but now I have some confidence that it’s true. Thanks!
For the simple reason that the compensations are similar, and for WLB google.
How the refreshers will be in Google Austin for L4 role ?
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You’re putting Google on a poll in Blind. Google will win.
Lol fair enough, but hopefully with some insightful discussion and good reasoning
But that fb offer sucked big time too.