Hello all,
Few days ago I had a post on Msft vs AMZ offer. It seems Msft offer was favored amongst the crowd. I do now have another question on offer and was hoping you guys can help me consider them. I am at greater Seattle Area. 4.5YoE
For MSFT L62
150K base
80k Signon (over 1 yr)
200K stock (over 4 yrs, 25% each)
10-15% Annual bonus according to recruiter
New team with interesting Tech
~ 242 TC
For Google L4
146K base
0k Signon
270K stock (over 4 yrs, 36%/28%/20%/16%)
15% Annual bonus
Think it's with Google Cloud
~ 235 TC
I tried to have Google matched MSFT's but was told that since MSFT offer was only verbal (I provided screenshot of the email communication) Google is not willing to match the offer. (Microsoft only gave the verbal offer, I think it's that you only received the official offer letter once you agreed to accept verbal offer)
And after that since matching didn't work out, I asked for a signon bonus and was completely rejected by Goog.
I know I was lucky to get teammatched at Google right after HC cleared and it would boost my resume and open doors later on but I was bumped by getting rejected by either salary matching or getting a small signon.
I want to know which offer do you consider better, and is there any factors that I may have overlooked?
Thanks in advance
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Roughly a decade ago: Someone joined my team at 62 I was 60 then. This guy was 2 year junior to me. Technically good. I didn’t have an way to compare him with me.
Within 6 months he was asked to undergo training and qualify as 62 or quit. He ended up quitting.
Before he left, I had a chance to talk to him on what happened.
He had multiple offers before joining MS. His initial offer was for a L60 but in the bidding process he went up to the L62 salary. MS made a competitive offer compared to his ADOBE offer.
No one told him the expectation of L62 at that point and was shown the door.
My suggestion: Offer matching is good but evaluate the expectation increase with that too.
Promos are upto your PEERS and not your manager....at MS, it's entirely up to your manager.
Also, MS pay us skewed higher towards lower levels as bait-n-switch....once you get (suckered) in, you'll find your TC will decrease over time, while your peers goes yp