Hello all, Few days ago I had a post on Msft vs AMZ offer. It seems Msft offer was favored amongst the crowd. I do now have another question on offer and was hoping you guys can help me consider them. I am at greater Seattle Area. 4.5YoE For MSFT L62 150K base 80k Signon (over 1 yr) 200K stock (over 4 yrs, 25% each) 10-15% Annual bonus according to recruiter New team with interesting Tech ~ 242 TC For Google L4 146K base 0k Signon 270K stock (over 4 yrs, 36%/28%/20%/16%) 15% Annual bonus Think it's with Google Cloud ~ 235 TC I tried to have Google matched MSFT's but was told that since MSFT offer was only verbal (I provided screenshot of the email communication) Google is not willing to match the offer. (Microsoft only gave the verbal offer, I think it's that you only received the official offer letter once you agreed to accept verbal offer) And after that since matching didn't work out, I asked for a signon bonus and was completely rejected by Goog. I know I was lucky to get teammatched at Google right after HC cleared and it would boost my resume and open doors later on but I was bumped by getting rejected by either salary matching or getting a small signon. I want to know which offer do you consider better, and is there any factors that I may have overlooked? Thanks in advance
G has a significant stock refresher starting year 2. Microsoft doesn’t refresh much stock unless you get higher level
I don’t understand your problem. They said no sign on ? Why don’t you get Microsoft offer letter and then reject them after google matches it .
Well mainly because I'd have to tell msft I'm going in order to get that offer in writing and then later say sorry msft I was just kidding I'm not going
You can always say that ... after careful consideration you chose the other offer as it seems like a better fit at this point. .. that’s how they reject the candidates anyway.
Are you getting sign on 80k in the first year?
From what I heard yes
I would check on that
Google any day. L4>>>L62. Also, at Microsoft you will be in tears every year when you see your annual refreshers. It’s going to be 🥜🥜🥜.
I got 235 as l3 so get competing offees?
How long did it take for you to find a team after clearing HC?
From my understanding, L59-L62 at MSFT has 10% target bonus while L63-L64 has 15% target bonus. As a result, your L62 MSFT offer would really be $235k TC—same as Google. Combined with generally better benefits (even if WFH for now) & way better refreshers & better brand name, it seems like Google’s a no brainer. If you don’t like working at Google Cloud, I’ve heard internal transfer is doable after 1 year. Just curious, how were your interviews?
Can you share your preparation strategy and LC approach?
Hello. I did about 500 LCs 100easy 150hard the rests are medium
150 hard? I’m screwed
Google for a year, if you don’t get a promotion and/or big bump, leave. Negotiate sign on too.
Already tried but didn't get approve. How would you go about negotiating
Tell them it’s a dealbreaker given the significant sign on with MSFT.