Google L5 EE -> Instacart L5?

UPDATE: Instacart offer got lowered. See below for details. Current Google L5 TC (7.5 YOE): Base: 174k RSUs: 109k (grant value); 190k (vest value) Yearly bonus: 35k Refresher: 135k/4 TC (grant value): 320k TC (vest value): 400k Instacart L5 offer: Base: 220k (final: 200k) RSUs: 760k/4 Sign-on bonus: 65k (final: 50k) Refresher: 180k/4 (estimated) First year TC: 475k (final: 440k) TC excluding sign-on: 415k (final: 390k) Reasons for going to Instacart: 1. Higher TC upside 2. More interesting projects Reasons for staying at Google: 1. To not be downleveled (Google L5 maps to Instacart L6 at my YOE) 2. More TLM/EM opportunities, which is what I’d like to do long-term

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AppLovin rocky05 May 18, 2021

Levels are just a label. You’ll probably have TLM/EM opportunities at Instacart eventually too

Amazon bigdog22 May 18, 2021

You should ask them to do another round for L6

Google OtCT06 OP May 18, 2021

Unfortunately, that’s not an option.

Google aowmgt May 18, 2021

Instacart is past it's best days. Not talking about the tech or type of work, but I doubt they will ever get a better opportunity than what they got last year. Find better options.

Google OtCT06 OP May 18, 2021

Could your elaborate? Sure, it would have been better to get in at previous valuations. Do you think IC won’t continue growing?

Google ACoaster May 18, 2021

I think they meant covid / wfh caused people to use instacart more

Google cidr May 18, 2021

dont take down level offer for this small amount of comp bump.

Google ov3hyg May 18, 2021

Very little bump in TC honestly Switch to em here in Google and then move

Instacart auudksd May 18, 2021

If you do decide on IC, your RSU can go up to 800 at least. At your YOE it is a down level but you can likely get L6 in ~1.5 years. You can also always get that signing bonus, see if the IPO and refresher works in your favor and decide 1 year in if you want to stay or go back to Google. I’d recommend talking to some ex Googlers we have and get their opinion, recruiter should be able to set up as many calls as you need.

Google cidr May 18, 2021

if OP get L6 offer I wont say dont go. But dude, for those little comp bump take a downlevel offer, seriously? The point is the down level ! not compare instacart v.s google in project, comp, people etc.

Instacart auudksd May 18, 2021

Yea I’m not saying to go. I would only go in OP’s current position if I was unhappy with G and wanted a change in project or people I work with, etc. If that is the case, I am pointing out it’s not a terrible loss except in level’ing.

Apple rechrv May 18, 2021

There was a post from a 1YOE fb engineer who got instacart L5 offer. This will be a huge downlevel..

Google HvRB56 May 18, 2021

I think that’s an outlier though.

Apple rechrv May 18, 2021

There were a few actually. Check out this post! "Instacart vs Robinhood (Software Engineering)" https://us.teamblind.com/s/aWbDsYfv 3YOE getting L5.. Plus another one where amazon L4 got L5 instacart offer.

Instacart tkSo78 May 19, 2021

Which team in Instacart??? And google’s E5 == Instacart’s L6

Google OtCT06 OP May 19, 2021

Ads. Yeah, I know...

Instacart tkSo78 May 19, 2021

Beware of Ads

Indeed oppoos May 19, 2021

why tc from instacart is lowered?

Google OtCT06 OP May 19, 2021

There was an issue getting final approval.

Lyft kcco May 19, 2021

Google any day. The gig is up for gig economy.

Google ov3hyg May 19, 2021

Really? Not happy at Lyft? Stock is doing well right?

Lyft kcco May 19, 2021

Why would you bet on a one trick pony?