Google L5 TPM vs. Amazon L6 TPM

New Aviva
Mar 18, 2019 38 Comments

Google offer: ~270 TC (170 base + 70 RSU/year + 15%) L5 TPM at Sunnyvale.
Amazon offer: ~260 TC L6 TPM at Seattle.

My preference is for Google as it aligns better with my experiences, aspirations and intellectual orientation.

Questions/comments regarding the Google offer:
1. Is 270K TC at L5 TPM a good offer for the Bay area?
I was expecting around 330 TC for Sunnyvale - so this feels on the lower side.

2. 280K RSU (over 4 years) seems underwhelming.
My expectation was over 400 (100K per year). Thoughts/opinions?

3. Should I opt for the Google Seattle location?
This won't be my first preference as I'd prefer to be at the headquarters' location for better interactions / exposure to other teams, but need to justify this (mostly to myself) in economic terms.

Note on the Amazon offer:
I don't have the complete break-up of the 260 TC yet, so at this point, it may not be an accurate comparison with the Google offer.
In general, I expect Google to be competitive vis-a-vis Amazon.

Any advice/suggestions?

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TOP 38 Comments
  • Amazon jump_ship
    Google has much better benefits than Amazon. Might wanna compare if you're looking to start a family.
    Mar 18, 2019 8
    • Amazon jump_ship
      I read on glassdoor that in case you die prematurely, they continue to pay 50% of your pay to your spouse for the next 10 yrs. That in itself is a huge benefit in terms of financial security.
      Mar 19, 2019
    • Amazon gyqhjb
      That is true, plus $1000/month per child until 18 years. You could also just buy life insurance...
      Mar 19, 2019
  • Amazon gyqhjb
    State tax and COL make the Google offer significantly worse. The difference in benefits is not *that* great
    Mar 18, 2019 6
    • Amazon gyqhjb
      You’re not wrong. It’s a diff model for sure. G refreshes only vest monthly if the grant is over 160k. Quarterly otherwise. The stacking is pronounced years 2,3,4 but after that you have no initial grant and are relying on your stacked refresh - and refresh amounts rarely match sign-on/4.
      Mar 19, 2019
    • Google topCon
      Right, there's a 4 year cliff when the initial grant is done. With Amazon, your 3rd year refresher vests in year 5 and 6?

      Anyway, taken all together I think you still come out ahead with Google, even with tax and COL factored in.
      Mar 19, 2019
  • Microsoft y83j
    YOE?
    Mar 18, 2019 3
    • Oracle welle
      What triggered you to change your path from EM ( engineering manager) to TPM ? Curious to know
      Apr 14, 2019
    • New Aviva
      OP
      On hindsight, it was a mistake - something that stalled my career.
      Let's not rub it in anymore :)
      Nov 4, 2019
  • Microsoft / Eng
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    Go for Google
    Mar 18, 2019 0
  • Amazon / Eng Yolo!
    3rd and 4th year is 112k in RSU. It’s not evenly distributed as vesting is 5,5,40,40

    Go for Google, but Seattle. 270k is nothing in the valley, everyone’s seemingly making 400k 🤷🏽‍♂️
    Mar 18, 2019 8
    • Amazon / Eng Yolo!
      By “everyone” I was talking Sr. Level like a L6 of Amazon, obviously new grads and junior engineers would be lucky to get that.
      Mar 19, 2019
    • Amazon TTTPPMM
      It’s 5/15/40/40
      Apr 26, 2019
  • Intel iambot
    isn’t 270k + 70k greater than 330k?
    Mar 19, 2019 1
    • New Aviva
      OP
      270K includes the 70K RSU/year
      Mar 19, 2019
  • Amazon TTTPPMM
    Does your TC include sign on?
    Apr 27, 2019 0
  • Microsoft y0lo
    YOE?
    Apr 13, 2019 0
  • Amazon Blink1
    Amazon usually offers ~250 for TPM L6. 310 is seen too but rarely. Expect a huge cliff after 4 yr as refreshers are in very low end.
    Apr 13, 2019 0
  • Oracle DMUe80
    congrats. How long did it take to get the Google offer? Is this in GCP? I am still waiting for mine to go to HC.
    Mar 19, 2019 0

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